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Gunslinger
07-16-2012, 12:46 AM
I've got a package coming from my friend Diego in Argentina. This is going to be a very cool project. Thanks mate.

crismans
07-16-2012, 02:04 AM
Is it what I'm hoping it is? Please be!

Gunslinger
07-16-2012, 02:18 AM
No Crisman, sorry mate. I don't know where THAT project is at. Perhaps PM Diego.

neutronbomb
07-16-2012, 02:28 AM
Yeah. Maybe fill the rest of us in on it or them now that all this teasing us stuff is going on.

Gunslinger
07-16-2012, 03:09 AM
Yeah, sorry it unintentionally went down that road thanks to Crisman. ~spit~

It's ALWAYS Crisman. (LOL)

Jokes aside, this will be a cool one-off hat thing. Crisman is referring to something else that I'm neither that much in the loop on or at liberty to talk about for the moment. (But I have my fingers crossed.)

crismans
07-16-2012, 03:50 AM
Hey now, I didn't cause it to go down that road. "I've got a super-duper package coming and you don't know what it is!" That's a direct quote. Just look at the top of the page!

All jokes aside, I wasn't trying to tease or be an insider "knower of things". I've heard the faintest vestige of a rumor on a cool project. I know next to nothing about it and can't say anything about what little (read: paltry) I do know.

Gunslinger
07-16-2012, 04:37 AM
Yeah I guess I was acting a bit like a girl at a bar who's drunk 3 Bacardi Breezers when it comes to the tease factor. :)

neutronbomb
07-16-2012, 05:17 AM
Lol. Well then, I can't wait to see this super duper package deal when it gets revealed.

Gunslinger
07-16-2012, 08:18 AM
I'm sure it will never be able to live up to the huge amount of hype that has now been generated. :) lol.

Indiego Jones
07-16-2012, 03:32 PM
Once arrives let me know.
I'll be waiting for your most cruel critic.

PS: not trying to tease here, but the "project" Cris and gunslinger are referring to it's our long-waited Raiders jacket offering. 4 years working on it...the problem is getting the correct leather available (at a good price too...wich has always been our goal for our offerings).

Gunslinger
07-24-2012, 05:23 AM
Ok, IT HAS ARRIVED. All I can say is that Diego's hat bodies are the most dead-on accurate to the actual Herbert Johnson Raiders era hats that I have ever felt or seen. Beats the modern Herbert Johnsons; leaves them for dead. It's a new version of the old REAL rabbit. I am VERY happy! Dear God people, but one of this man's hats if you're in the market. Well worth the $.

Indiego Jones
07-24-2012, 03:02 PM
I'm so happy you like it.
I can't wait to see that felt getting re-worked by you, as I said before you have skills and perfect eye for every detail.

Just remember it used to have a sweatband on (machine sewed).
I've never had problems re-blocking this hats, just a reminder.
Cheers!

neutronbomb
07-25-2012, 12:43 AM
:pics:

Hahahaha I've waited 3.5 years to use that. JK. love to see it when you're finished with it gunslinger.

Gunslinger
07-25-2012, 01:21 AM
Diego, I'm so happy. You DEFINITELY have the best felt out there in terms of accuracy. The felt got crappier as time went on, and the last "good" HJ I have handled was dated 1978. By 1982 / 1984 (I can't remember which) the quality had dropped a notch since the late 70s. All that is to say that with a good reblock where you shrink the felt down so it's denser, and then give it a really good pouncing, you will get a good result from any of them, but if given a choice, I like the pre 1980 ones the best. Diego's seem to be as hardy as the Akubra (awesome), but with the smoothness of the older era of hats (also awesome). (IE the Akubras are quite 'bristly' until you pounce them - I dislike the finish on them. So I'm saying all of this ahead of actually reblocking and pouncing it, but I now have even higher hopes for the quality of this hat once all the components come together.

Neutronbomb - I'll hold off with pics for now because it just doesn't look like anything - it's just a generic body.

neutronbomb
07-25-2012, 01:43 AM
Hey, you know you could cut the sweat to like 56.65 cm if you like Indy_cheers

Gunslinger
07-25-2012, 02:24 AM
Yeah,yeah, you wish! The sweat and liner will actually be from a 1950s / 1960s era Herbert Johnson for Brooks Brothers. Simply beautiful leather - the most supple, "polished" yet soft I have ever seen.

Yet that pales into insignificance next to the coolness of your avatar. Classic.

neutronbomb
07-25-2012, 03:22 AM
Ha ha. Yep. "that's a pirate."

Harry Steele
07-25-2012, 04:06 AM
It'll be great to see the hat you make out of that felt body!

Gunslinger
12-02-2012, 08:07 AM
An update - fantastic felt! The best combo of old fashioned rabbit luxurious feel with none of the thick brittleness of very old (pre 1970s) hat bodies. In other words it feels dense like the old great quality hats with none of the drawbacks. Totally stoked.

Beautiful colour - very close to the Cury Sable felt. The South American connection at work? :)

So in any event, if you want a hat, I can vouch for Diego's stuff. Hands down the best of anything I've ever blocked.

Anyway, yes, pics forthcoming.

neutronbomb
12-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Finally!! I figured you had forgotten about this thread :)

Ram Man
12-02-2012, 08:21 PM
I am very curious to see what you have done!

Gunslinger
12-02-2012, 11:39 PM
"Cooking" the body:

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hat%20Build/IMG_0543.jpg

On the block, with and without flash. This shows how Steele & Jones' bodies react to light the same as the vintage HJ's.

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hat%20Build/IMG_0547.jpg

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hat%20Build/IMG_0548.jpg

neutronbomb
12-03-2012, 02:35 PM
Cool! Hopefully, you can share more photos as you take it through the process. Pretty rad looking felt so far.

Indiego Jones
12-03-2012, 04:18 PM
Looking nice!!!!

Can wait to see it finished.

Gunslinger
12-03-2012, 07:02 PM
For those wanting detailed instructions on how to make a spot on Raiders hat, I'm going to take pics as I go and explain exactly how it's done.

That will be a proper article, not a thread, along with a bunch of other things on an all new section of the site that's coming soon.

neutronbomb
12-03-2012, 09:16 PM
We could turn on the blogging feature if you want. Maybe this would work for that. Bending Oak is also doing something along these lines in one of his threads. I don't know, but we have blogging and what.. articles available as a feature if we want to use them.

Gunslinger
12-03-2012, 10:31 PM
We have the "other thing" for that stuff - it will work better...

Trust me. ;)

Ram Man
12-03-2012, 10:33 PM
For those wanting detailed instructions on how to make a spot on Raiders hat, I'm going to take pics as I go and explain exactly how it's done.

That will be a proper article, not a thread, along with a bunch of other things on an all new section of the site that's coming soon.

Very cool! How does one get his hands on a size 59 block if he wanted to try making his own?

HENRY JONES JR.
12-03-2012, 10:54 PM
For those wanting detailed instructions on how to make a spot on Raiders hat, I'm going to take pics as I go and explain exactly how it's done.

That will be a proper article, not a thread, along with a bunch of other things on an all new section of the site that's coming soon.

I'm EXTREMELY interested in this process!

Gunslinger
12-04-2012, 12:49 AM
Visit Ebay, Etsy, Homegroan. The key is to get a block with nice, relatively straight sides, and not too much of a curve on the top. You need it to be at least 5.5" high.

With sizing, ALWAYS get them to measure the block at about the 5.5" mark. What you want is a measurement that equals your head size plus about 8mm.

This can be the topic of a different article where I can lay all of this stuff out with pics of blocks. Feel free to start a new thread on Raiders blocks if you find any and want advice.

Ram Man
12-04-2012, 02:26 AM
Visit Ebay, Etsy, Homegroan. The key is to get a block with nice, relatively straight sides, and not too much of a curve on the top. You need it to be at least 5.5" high.

With sizing, ALWAYS get them to measure the block at about the 5.5" mark. What you want is a measurement that equals your head size plus about 8mm.

This can be the topic of a different article where I can lay all of this stuff out with pics of blocks. Feel free to start a new thread on Raiders blocks if you find any and want advice.

Very good Gunslinger. Thanks for the details. Look forward to your series on this.

Gunslinger
12-30-2012, 04:25 AM
Just finished this hat. Without exaggeration, it's the best I've ever owned, and is the most accurate to the vintage sable Herbert Johnson I have from the late 70s. Can't recommend Diego's hats enough if the quality of his bodies are anything to go by.

I will post pics in the coming days, but for now let me say that the bodies that Diego uses are just the right balance of stiffness and pliability. The Raiders bash and turn went in there CRAZY fast, and held. Normally much more work. These are like the Akubras, only MUCH better, they have the same rugged toughness, but without the colour bleeding, and they pounce a little finer - plus the colour is as close to the vintage sable as I've ever seen, including the Adventurebilt Deluxes.

As you can tell, I'm just a very happy camper.

neutronbomb
12-30-2012, 01:22 PM
Well, can't wait to see those pics after that. The felt you are talking about, it's the felt he's been using from South America, not the HJ project stuff?

Ram Man
12-30-2012, 07:02 PM
Well, can't wait to see those pics after that. The felt you are talking about, it's the felt he's been using from South America, not the HJ project stuff?

If I'm not mistaking, the felt in the HJ project is the same South American felt that he has been using on his other hats, just processed a little differently.


Gunslinger, I am encouraged by your review of Steele and Jones quality given your experience with other felts. I haven't owned many hats but compared to the ones I have owned my Steele and Jones is the best. I am looking forward to pictures of your hat.

Gunslinger
12-30-2012, 10:01 PM
This is from one of his regular South American bodies. It's VERY close. Remember, South America is where the vintage Cury bodies were produced, and from what I've now seen, this is not a coincidence. I can't wait to see his other special type.

In the meantime, I'm doing a special "making of" article with pics - gimme a few days though.

Indiego Jones
12-31-2012, 12:37 PM
Thanks for this review. I've never held in my hands a Raiders era HJ, so I never could have done the exact comparison.


Well, can't wait to see those pics after that. The felt you are talking about, it's the felt he's been using from South America, not the HJ project stuff?
Same felt. Our standard felt and the Vintage HJ project come from the same factory (South America), same process, same fur.
Only that the HJ project one have a slight (very slight, but necessary) color modification. More related to dying exposure than color, properly speaking.
About stiffness and pliability, we leave it as is, according to Gunslinger's suggestion.

Gunslinger
12-31-2012, 07:44 PM
Yeah, I didn't want to speak for you on that score, mate. :) But with the stiffness, if it ain't broke...

That's interesting re the new felt. So it will be dyed "more"?

Gunslinger
01-01-2013, 05:08 AM
Some pics. Click the thumbs for the big versions of each. This took about 3 mins to bash, and at this stage I've worn it for a total of about 5 mins. As you can see - accurate "Raiders felt" Indy_cheers

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HENRY JONES JR.
01-01-2013, 05:15 AM
Some pics. Click the thumbs for the big versions of each. This took about 3 mins to bash, and at this stage I've worn it for a total of about 5 mins. As you can see - accurate "Raiders felt" Indy_cheers

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OMG!! THAT IS AMAZING!! :o

neutronbomb
01-01-2013, 11:40 AM
Wow. Really nice man. Did you bash it at 4.5"?

Gunslinger
01-01-2013, 09:54 PM
Thanks mate. No, it's at 4.25".

Indiego Jones
01-01-2013, 10:27 PM
WOWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!
Perfect fedora! Beautiful!!! You have skills.


Yeah, I didn't want to speak for you on that score, mate. :) But with the stiffness, if it ain't broke...

That's interesting re the new felt. So it will be dyed "more"?
It's going to be dyed "deeper". I don't know the exact process, but basically what changes it's the time of ink exposure. That's what they (felt factory) told me.

Gunslinger
01-02-2013, 12:52 AM
Thanks mate. Check your email btw.

Raskolnikov
01-02-2013, 07:36 PM
Beautiful indeed! Can't imagine anything more accurate.
Congratulations.

crismans
01-02-2013, 08:05 PM
Great looking fedora, GS. What's your take on how it will last (assuming just everyday wear).

Gunslinger
01-02-2013, 10:21 PM
:)

Thanks mate. YEARS. If blocked right, even modern rabbit felt holds up just fine as well as looking the part.

Indiego Jones
07-21-2015, 11:29 PM
Looking foward to see recent pictures of this hat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks :p

Gunslinger
07-23-2015, 10:15 AM
Sure thing.


...gimme a few days...

Gunslinger
08-08-2015, 10:42 AM
Some new hat shots. Since making it 2 1/2 years ago, this hat has been worn in the rain, fog, mist, building and replenishing campfires, jungles, hipster farmers' markets (~cough~), and deserts. Measures at the same dimensions - IE no tapering / shrinkage.

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hats/D700_20150726_130722_zpsn1qq4hng.jpg (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/GunslingerAU/media/Hats/D700_20150726_130722_zpsn1qq4hng.jpg.html)

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hats/D700_20150726_130708_zpsniojkzek.jpg (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/GunslingerAU/media/Hats/D700_20150726_130708_zpsniojkzek.jpg.html)

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hats/D700_20150726_130734_01_zpsgmnfqv6h.jpg (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/GunslingerAU/media/Hats/D700_20150726_130734_01_zpsgmnfqv6h.jpg.html)

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hats/D700_20150726_130808_zpsiauhdt9o.jpg (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/GunslingerAU/media/Hats/D700_20150726_130808_zpsiauhdt9o.jpg.html)

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/GunslingerAU/Hats/D700_20150726_130916_zpsggvv9nvk.jpg (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/GunslingerAU/media/Hats/D700_20150726_130916_zpsggvv9nvk.jpg.html)

Indiego Jones
08-08-2015, 09:58 PM
I'm amazed.
Beautiful pictures.

The felt has faded nicely.

I'm happy that you enjoyed the hat in many "adventures" ;)
Thanks for the pics!

Cheers.-

Gunslinger
08-08-2015, 11:00 PM
Thanks mate. Actually it hasn't faded as much as these pics suggest. i will post some pics of this hat against a new body soon.