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    Grizzled Grave Robber Knight of the Round Table neutronbomb's Avatar
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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    This morning I've updated my post below from yesterday to explain that it is a fictional story I posted in this thread, rather than it's own, to make a point and enlarged the small three point type disclaimer sentence below the photos. It was brought to you via:



    Leave it to Mac to ruin the fun right away , but in actuality I'm glad he did or I would have had to myself to make sure it didn't really get taken seriously and to that end I'm sorry DocWeeks. It was a shitty thing to do and I feel guilty about it. I had been considering really letting it go and having some other members help me carry on the story and create "proof" and having some fun with it, but in the end decided against it. It would be taking a simple point of caution too far. Additionally, at some point in time when I had to reveal it's a fictional story it could be awkward as then it could be viewed as making an excuse for getting caught in a lie. Hence, I put in the disclaimer sentence in the post below the photos. Which of course, kills the ability to continue on with the story.

    So two other things other than my original intent cross my mind in regards to this fish tale. I actually didn't feel very good about this after I had done it thinking about how people may feel. I doubt this is a problem for Patterson. Also, there seemed to be a lot of hot activity suddenly on the site which made me wonder if that may be a reason that COW supports Patterson in all his outlandish tall tales.

    I'd like to offer DocWeeks $40 paypal credit I'll send to one of the vendors here on our board to make amends. That could be a nice chunk towards something at Todd's Costumes or Wade Egan's, but really whomever's your choice. Just PM me and we'll work it out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mac
    Always wanted to use that, LOL!
    Glad I could help you out


    Quote Originally Posted by TheExit148
    I'll give you $50 If that is the recent one from Gunslinger, it looks great in those pics.
    I'm sure you would Yes it is the recent vintage HJ from Gunslinger. I'll get a new thread up this morning about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by DocWeeks
    I'm not too bright, but I'm dumb.
    Not at all Doc. You simply logged on, read something great, and took it at face value. Nothing wrong with that. hell, I thought it was a pretty good story too. I and many others can totally empathize with you on this because that is what happened to us at COW. Hence, much of the vitriol in Nukin' the Fridge. Hopefully no hard feelings


    Quote Originally Posted by RCSignals
    Nice wood pile
    Geez RCSignals. It's the woodpile you noticed!


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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    NB, the point about using photos of an ostensibly authentic prop to bolster a farfetched story is well taken. I’ve no idea if Noble-House really had a deal with LFL or actually examined a real LC jacket, but I believe the purported LC jacket on their website is almost certainly a genuine LC jacket.

    It could be faked, as NB (Gunslinger?) has shown a hat can be, but in my opinion it’s much, much harder to accurately replicate distressing on a leather jacket than a felt hat. The level of detail on the mannequin jacket matches very closely the distressing on the collar, chest, and shoulder of the first photo I posted.



    I find it harder to believe that Noble-House has the skill to fabricate a finely detailed LC jacket replica, and then proceeded to manufacture a highly inaccurate product, than it is to believe that Noble-House entered into a licensing agreement with LFL, examined a real LC jacket, and then went on to turn out a mediocre copy.

    Sorry to ruin it (bad penny and all that), I hadn’t actually seen the small text when I posted the “It's a Fake” photo, but I noticed the gap in the knot of the bow, so I knew it was NB’s hat from Gunslinger, added to the fact that it was posted in a jacket thread, I assumed it was to make a point about provenance.

    Not everyone is necessarily paying close attention to these topics, however, and I think we all agree there’s no need to have casual readers look foolish in the process of demonstrating how easy it is to fabricate a hoax. I know that was not NBs intent, which is why I pointed out the small text and Doc shouldn't feel bad in the least, as it was a convincing and believable story. NBs point is appreciated though; we all want to believe the fantastic is possible and are often willing to accept very flimsy evidence, in this case because we trust the originator. And I have to commend you NB for offering Doc a vendor credit, that’s a really nice gesture.

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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    Don't even worry about it, had I read closer I would have understood. I was too quick to hope one of our own had acquired a screen used piece. NB, you're a classy standup guy. No apologies are necessary, and it wasn't shitty. I don't need anything for my own inability to read subtext.

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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    Just noticed that their jacket also has 3 piece sleeves (where's the vomiting smiley when you need it?)

    I bet that picture was taken at the archives and sent to these guys to make their crappy copy.



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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)


    You half-fooled me, NB... I'll take $20.

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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    I agree with you mac on that jacket being one of the LC jackets, and on Noble house in general.
    If Noble House did have that jacket to duplicate, they did the duplication in the dark. If they claim to be the makers of the movie jacket, I wonder which movie, especially given that 2009 date.
    Anyway, they haven't done themselves any favours claiming their jacket is a duplicate. That is the claim?

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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    RC they haven't referred to any Indiana Jones movie. They just talking about the general Indiana Jones jacket. They just mean the style... look at the other stuff on their homepage.
    Not even one close Replica of any other well known jacket. I guess because they probably having a license from Lucasfilm. They can claim whatever they like to...
    This reminds me a bit of the Mayser Indy hats. They had a license but just made poor stuff.
    I mainly started this thread because of the picture of the possible screenused LC jacket.

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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking they were claiming they made jackets for the movie.
    If they do have a licence from lucasfilm, obviously that doesn't include verification of authentic look.

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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    The funniest part? Their jacket doesn't even have the poppers on the storm flap.

    "Figuring things out for yourself is practically the only freedom anyone really has nowadays. Use that freedom." Jean Rasczak

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    Re: Noble-House Indy Jacket (poor jacket, another fairy tail?)

    Quote Originally Posted by HWaltonJonesJr.Phd

    You half-fooled me, NB... I'll take $20.
    Ok. Done Nothing like buying myself a guilt free conscience. Thanks for letting me off the hook Doc. Seriously, though. I'm happy to chip in that 40 next time your jonesing for something new.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger
    If it -is- a copy, it's a damn good one in terms of the attention to detail with those markings, but that's possible to achieve. However, the LC jacket has always looked to me like certain areas such as the pocket have "crustier" leather. This jacket looks far smoother, but it could be the difference in light conditions. It'd be great to see more shots of it.
    It does look very, very much like the photos Mac posted. I would also like to see more detailed shots of it as the smoothness also struck me though as Gunslinger pointed out lighting could be a factor and also maybe the distance, but nevertheless the exactness of the similarities we can see can't be denied.


    @Mac. Thank you for your comments. What I had in mind was questing/cautioning the story combined with a random valid looking photo, real LC screenused film jacket or not, posted on their website.

    I agree that it's difficult to imagine they created the LC photo jacket and then proceeded to create such a terrible replica. No collar stand either by the looks of it. I'm also doubting their LFL claim. I'd think they would be stating officially licensed Indiana Jones Jacket all over the place if they got the license. The Crystal Skull patch inside, but a LC jacket per the photo just doesn't add up for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by K-Wad
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    I bet that picture was taken at the archives and sent to these guys to make their crappy copy.
    +1


 

 
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