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Hollowpond
11-20-2010, 12:54 AM
What would the REAL Indiana Jones' jacket look like? I imagine a half belt design like this

http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/images/extra_images/large/extra-image-219.jpg

RCSignals
11-20-2010, 12:57 AM
You may be right. Certainly it was a popular style in the '30s and later period.

I suspect it would be made of horse hide, possibly goat or cowhide, but most likely horse.

HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
11-20-2010, 01:17 AM
and maybe the real jeans too.. http://www.manufactum.com/Produkt/193632/1449832/LeviStrauss501xx1933.html

crismans
11-20-2010, 03:44 AM
I'd say it may have very well been a halfbelt design. Like RC said, most probably in horsehide.

I'd think he'd like the A2 type cargo pockets though. More room for storing artifacts.

Marauder
11-20-2010, 04:01 AM
I've seen versions of half-belt jackets with top entry flapped pockets.
I'm not sure if they had 'handwarmer' pockets too.

Not Sure
11-20-2010, 01:00 PM
Something like what "Weird Al" Yankovich wears in the opening "Raiders of the Lost Ark Spoof" scenes in his 1989 movie, UHF. It's this same half-belt design shown in this thread.

Weston
11-20-2010, 02:20 PM
Something like what "Weird Al" Yankovich wears in the opening "Raiders of the Lost Ark Spoof" scenes in his 1989 movie, UHF. It's this same half-belt design shown in this thread.


If you put cargo pockets on the jacket in the above picture, I think you would have the jacket Drew Struzan was illustrating in the pictures for the Indiana Jones novels. Tony made one for a customer based on Struzan's work, and to this day it is one of the coolest jackets I have ever seen.

Weston

Tibor
11-21-2010, 03:37 AM
And buttons instead of zippers, kinda like an A-1 jacket (at least for the early adventures). Or maybe he'd just wear some left-overs from the flying he did in WWI.

RCSignals
11-21-2010, 04:35 AM
Zippers have been around a long time. I've read of zippers being used on clothing as far back at lest as WW1

Tibor
11-21-2010, 04:41 AM
But I've only seen buttons and belts on WWI stuff all the way through to the early 30's. I guess people didn't think they were suited to leather initially. Maybe they didn't trust that fancy new technology. I don't doubt there were zippers, I just haven't seen much evidence of their widespread use. Buttons and belts do work pretty good. You get that nice jaunty, safari jacket look. :)

RCSignals
11-21-2010, 05:05 AM
I used WW1 as a time reference, not referring specifically to military clothing

Sure there is nothing wrong with buttons. They just don't have the complete closure that a zipper does.

A-2s date to the very early 30's and have a zipper, as does the predecessor to the G-1.
But zippers and their use on clothing did exist prior to that. There is a discussion here somewhere.
The first prototype A-2s I've seen photos of had a zipper but buttons on the pocket flaps.

Raider S
11-21-2010, 04:59 PM
http://s1.hubimg.com/u/3011956_f260.jpg

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/flieger/f03.jpg

http://www.historicflyingclothing.com/myarchive/176.jpg

Tibor
11-21-2010, 11:57 PM
Very nice... Now, round about 1934 or so, I could see him switching to zippers, just because they're so darn convenient and starting to be popular. Indy didn't strike me as someone to pick up on snazzy new fads very quickly. Old guns, old whip, old hat... kinda guy who liked tradition. But I'm sure he went through jackets often enough to replace them every 6-12 months, so there's lots of room for updates. Goodness knows, that TOD jacket was not going to serve him any more.

Gunslinger
11-22-2010, 01:05 AM
I can say that style ain't practical for anything but keeping you warm in an open cockpit, zipper or not.

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu163/roninbd/TheAviator.jpg

Hollowpond
11-22-2010, 01:12 AM
Which is why I stand by my assertion that it would be a half-belt. It would be more Surrogates than Indy.

Raider S
11-22-2010, 01:13 AM
Why the Tiger Moth?

Gunslinger
11-22-2010, 01:24 AM
I went for a flight in one in New Zealand. Got to take it for a spin myself which was great fun, especially ias it was amongst all the NZ mountainy scenery - picture Lord of the Rings. Then the owner took over and ran through some acrobatics as well - (one of his other planes is the style they use for the Red Bull comps - forget the model) - but man, it gave me an all-new appreciation for the guys that fought in dogfights - holy crap it was full on!

Not Sure
11-22-2010, 01:41 AM
I have to agree, Hollowpond. The Surrogates jacket is exceedingly attractive.

Tibor
11-22-2010, 01:52 AM
I can say that style ain't practical for anything but keeping you warm in an open cockpit, zipper or not.

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu163/roninbd/TheAviator.jpg


Fantastic! What an adventure. (They did tend to layer quite a bit for the frostier times.) Fleece is just so much better, and by WWII they had some electric versions that helped even more (well, when they worked correctly) I soooo much envy you your flight experience. Beautiful countryside, the sound, the air, the smell... just the perfect mix of things for a memorable day. Great pic!

Raider S
11-22-2010, 02:11 AM
Yeah, I did the dogfighting thing some years back. Not like a video game for sure and it makes any roller coaster seem tame. Wish I could do it more.

Gunslinger
11-22-2010, 02:22 AM
Yeah, until you do it, you just can't appreciate the effect it has on your body. But yeah, absolutely amazing. Next time I go there I'm thinking of laying off the acrobatics though and doing a longer, assisted flight in one of the guy's other planes from Wanaka down to Nelson Sound or something.

This is the company here: http://www.classicflights.co.nz/

And if you want something to rip the skin from your face:

Silver Demon Wanaka (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuFrxHn1bsY#ws)

RCSignals
11-22-2010, 02:39 AM
There are many different half belt styles, most it seems don't have an 'action' back.

The surrogates jacket of Bruce Willis has a modern cut, which I like but wouldn't be the cut of what a real I-J would have worn.

Both the ToD and Raiders jackets have more of an older style fit.

I don't think the movie franchise will be switching to a half belt for Indy ant time soon though

RCSignals
11-25-2010, 09:07 PM
Areo Leather makes a half belt with top entry flapped pockets that include handwarmers.

Bi swing back as well. The back design is reminiscent of the California Sportswear halfbelt copied by Goodwear leather

Photos from Areo leather USA (http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/listing/user/aeroleatherusa)

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL806/142228/13495440/200781697.jpg

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL806/142228/13495440/200781708.jpg

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL806/142228/13495440/200781726.jpg
http://http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL806/142228/13495440/200781702.jpg

djd
11-25-2010, 09:12 PM
Lovely !

RCSignals
11-25-2010, 09:20 PM
Isn't it though

they also have a longer version

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL806/142228/7206983/93701304.jpg

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL806/142228/7206983/93701298.jpg

I really love that brown

djd
11-25-2010, 09:39 PM
Yes that's even nicer. Indy jackets aside, that the leather colour I favour generally

badseed
04-14-2011, 10:38 AM
The leather jacket worn by Lucian K Truscott during ww2 was pretty cool,action back,cargo pockets and half belt

djd
04-14-2011, 11:54 AM
I just googled that but failed to find by decent pictures. Do you have any? :)

Mac
04-14-2011, 03:36 PM
Here are some Truscott photos djd:

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-MTO-Cassino/img/USA-MTO-Cassino-p106.jpg

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/lktruscott-life-cover-photo-01.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/Mac0/Misc/Truscott1.jpg

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/lktruscottjr-usa-photo-01.jpg


The back (large photo):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Capt._Richard_Wolfer_receiving_Bronze_Star_from_Ge n._Truscott_in_France.jpg

- Mac

djd
04-14-2011, 04:02 PM
Thanks Mac :)

RCSignals
04-14-2011, 06:20 PM
That's a great jacket. Probably custom.
I wonder how much Truscott's jacket influenced the style of the upcoming Captain America movie jacket?

Soviet airforce pilots (and later Soviet bloc) had a half belt style jacket starting sometime in the 1930s and continuing into the 60s or even 80's.

badseed
04-15-2011, 08:11 AM
I have 2 Truscott jackets built for me by MARS leather in Melbourne

I will get some pics up if not too way of Indyland

RCSignals
04-15-2011, 08:40 AM
please do.
I'm sure we'd all love to see them

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:43 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P9220039.jpg

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:44 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P9220043.jpg

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:45 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P9220042.jpg

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:46 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P9220040.jpg

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:47 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P9220041.jpg

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:48 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/FCA32GCRHCACPY87SCA0BD091CA9VJCJACA.jpg

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:50 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/610x.jpg

i could never get any good pics of the side,in the last 2 weeks 2 pics turned up showing the side area,i may have to return to the drawing board

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:52 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/Picture8.png

Cooper in For whom the bell tolls,a b3 type jacket

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:53 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/IMG_0007.jpg

yours t

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:54 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/Picture26.png

Spy Smasher jacket

badseed
04-16-2011, 10:56 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/CopyofYoungElyandhorseRiding013.jpg


yours t taking a horse for a spin

badseed
04-16-2011, 11:01 AM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc113/124cav/CopyofPicture19.png

badseed
04-16-2011, 11:02 AM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc113/124cav/IMG_3247.jpg

badseed
04-16-2011, 11:04 AM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc113/124cav/img316.jpg

from a 50s RM Williams catalogue

badseed
04-16-2011, 11:04 AM
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc113/124cav/img319.jpg

Kazim
04-16-2011, 12:01 PM
One of the things i like about the Indy jacket is that its easy to move around in it, very comfortable. Part of the design. I have some old halfbelts and a newer Aero and they are just not comfortable at all. Bad armhole design. I find myself wearing my Indy's far more often.

RCSignals
04-16-2011, 08:39 PM
Badseed, whoever at Mars made that jacket for you did a fantastic job. Are you showing us both jackets you have?

You just need to 'wear it in' more to get the leather looking more Truscott lived in look.

badseed
04-17-2011, 12:06 AM
the last photo of a mars jacket is my spy smasher replica

both my truscott jackeys (only one pictured) are 10 years old now and look very lived in,the spy smasher jacket is about 4 years old now and also looks a lot more relaxed

RCSignals
04-17-2011, 02:57 AM
I can't say it enough, they really are great jackets. Are both of your Truscott jackets exactly the same in colour and leather type?

badseed
04-17-2011, 10:25 AM
The 1st Truscott is a chocolate cow hide,the 2nd is a rusty kangaroo leather as is the Spy smasher jacket

i will try and get some pics up of the dark truscott,its the one that gets only Indy jacket types thinking

whipcracker
04-19-2011, 08:54 PM
Ok, so just how are the Truscott pockets constructed? They are not simple patch pockets. Are they gusseted? That is a great jacket. I love it! I can't wait to see pics of the dark brown...

badseed
05-17-2011, 03:38 AM
well here is the dark one

badseed
05-17-2011, 03:40 AM
pocket detail

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P1020832.jpg

badseed
05-17-2011, 03:45 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P1020831.jpg

badseed
05-17-2011, 03:57 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/alden405/P1020020.jpg

and here it is about this time last year