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Weston
10-04-2010, 04:33 AM
Here's the first one. Take a look!

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3127/dsc0063k.jpg
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9321/dsc0033ux.jpg
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4874/dsc0099iq.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9236/dsc0102nm.jpg

I thought you might like to see it. This is really incredible leather. It is rich, substantial, and has alot of character to it. Any of you who have one of these babies on order is in for a treat. Questions are welcome, but as wierd as it may sound, I have been asked by Wings not to share specs on the jacket at this time. I can tell you this jacket is a size L, and I am 6' tall, 170 lbs, 32 at the waist, and wear a 16 34/35 shirt. This one is made in the US by Schott. I can and will provide more pics if you want.


Weston

Mitch LaRue
10-04-2010, 06:17 PM
I just can't tell you how beautiful I think this jacket is, Weston... really something else.

Truly the BEST U.S. Wings Jacket I think I've ever seen... and you wear it VERY well, sir!

Cheers,
Mitch

jasonalun
10-04-2010, 07:55 PM
Very nice jacket! Looks very thick and luxurious. A little too much for what I'd want personally in a Raiders jacket, but that's just me and I'm sure there are many who would absolutely love this offering (I love it too, just not as a Raiders jacket per se). Love the striations on the front panel and sleeves. Great job by Wings. Thanks for posting this, Weston! I hope some more people can jump in with their opinions on it. I'd love to hear what everyone else thinks too.

crismans
10-04-2010, 08:23 PM
Very nice looking jacket! It does look very luxurious and one you could wear out anywhere. Being a big "grain" guy, I would like to see some more graining and striations (perhaps the camera has washed out some of the grain though?), but my first impression is that this is the finest Raiders style jacket to come out of US Wings. Very, very nice.

Weston
10-05-2010, 12:05 AM
Thanks Mitch!

Crismans, I have a feeling that the grain is really going to show up with wear. I had a problem with the shine on the jacket washing out the leather grain somewhat in the pics. The striations are like these little bubbles under the surface that seem to pop out when the jacket creases and moves. I don't know if you can see it that well on your screen, but take a look at the outer edge of my left sleeve in the first pic. That is the kind of thing this leather does when it starts to wrinkle up. I think the Raiders jacket is like a rorschach test, and everyone sees something different, some detail that trips the trigger and they instantly recognize it as Raiders, or dismiss it as not.

I'm very glad that my jacket has the parallel striations on the right front panel. To me, that is a key Raiders detail, although that particular jacket had other details that differ from this one. These won't be available for few weeks yet, so I can post an update after it's been worn for awhile and you can get a feel for what the leather is going to look like broken in.

Weston

Mitch LaRue
10-05-2010, 12:13 AM
I can post an update after it's been worn for awhile and you can get a feel for what the leather is going to look like broken in.
That would be very cool... and much appreciated Weston!

Noah
10-05-2010, 01:46 AM
That's a great looking jacket! Thickest looking lambskin I've seen. Please post an update after it's been worn for a while. :)

Raider S
10-05-2010, 03:14 AM
Maybe its the photos, but the pockets look very, very pointy. Also, I was hoping for more of a pronounced effect of the striations, but you mention a tick of the photos. Looks smooth, however.

That said, it's the best USW has offered thus far and several steps above previous offerings. But few things in life can live up to the hype surrounding them in the Internet age! :)

Gunslinger
10-05-2010, 03:44 AM
To be honest I much prefer the earlier one Sarge sent you, Weston. You mention the photos doing funny things to the way it appears. At the moment, it just presents all wrong, but I can't work out what it is - do you have some more shots in different light? Going by these I think this one looks more like an Indy-style motorcycle jacket or something. The pockets just look off somehow - almost like the stitching is white or something. I think a solid run in the washing machine may help the overall look as it looks far too shiny. Dunno...

Weston
10-05-2010, 04:13 AM
The light makes a big difference. Here's a few more.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9760/dsc0098pl.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6158/dsc0097p.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2448/dsc0049g.jpg

I think one difference you're picking up on is the thickness of the leather. That, combined with the high shine make the piping around the pockets really stand out where they will not on a thin hide with almost no shine like the naked cowhide jacket I posted before. Like I said, we'll see how it changes after some time and weather.

Weston

Gunslinger
10-05-2010, 04:20 AM
Yeah, I think you're right. Part of it's the piping. For some reason a lot of the USW jackets I've seen on their website have that prominent piping. Don't know if it's the width of the stitching or extra distance in from the hem or something (sewing language ain't my strong suit! :D ). But yeah, much better in that closeup shot above.

bigrex
10-05-2010, 09:25 AM
To be honest I much prefer the earlier one Sarge sent you, Weston. You mention the photos doing funny things to the way it appears. At the moment, it just presents all wrong, but I can't work out what it is - do you have some more shots in different light? Going by these I think this one looks more like an Indy-style motorcycle jacket or something. The pockets just look off somehow - almost like the stitching is white or something. I think a solid run in the washing machine may help the overall look as it looks far too shiny. Dunno...


Yes, to be honest as well, it also looks rather thick and rubbery in the photos to me, but I think it will wear in just fine and probably look great as it ages, it just looks so shiny and new right now even with the thick rumples in the sleeves. I think we're more used to seeing the pre-washed leathers, etc. these days which skews our perception a bit. ;) I preferred the first jacket over this one as well. I also don't really care for how the pocket flaps abruptly flare out at the bottom on each side. I would think this is not the case, but it also almost looks like it has some sort of squared-off shoulder padding effect going on in some photos. Anyway, so much for my critiques, again, I bet it looks great after it's been broken in properly. :-* Send it right over and I'll take care of that for you, but I might forget to send it back ^-^

Zane
10-05-2010, 12:19 PM
Looks perfect to me! I really like this leather!

Weston
10-17-2010, 10:29 PM
Here's an update. I took some pics this morning so you can see how it's breaking in.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2102/dsc0315dt.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3199/dsc0316dc.jpg

Hands in the pockets again. I don't know why I do that!

Weston

Zane
10-18-2010, 05:33 AM
Nice! Looks like it's aging perfectly! I really cant wait for mine!

Zane
10-18-2010, 05:54 AM
Thanks for doing all you do for us Weston! Your pictures are truly awesome to have around . It has really helped me make my final choice on the Jacket I want.

Weston
10-18-2010, 07:31 AM
Glad to help!

Weston

Mitch LaRue
10-18-2010, 08:45 AM
That jackets looking better and BETTER and BETTER!
Wonderful new shots, Weston!
:)

djd
10-18-2010, 01:02 PM
Can't wait to get hold of one of these beauties! Looks stunning

Weston
10-30-2010, 03:22 PM
I posted this picture in another thread. In a moment of insanity I ran it through the wash just to see what would happen to the grain. I am pleased, and honestly a bit shocked by the result.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5571/dsc03192p.jpg

The jacket is going to take days to dry, but I'll update this thread once it does.

Weston

Zane
10-30-2010, 04:26 PM
Looks Killer! Thanks for sharing Weston!

crismans
10-30-2010, 04:34 PM
I have to say that that is a great looking jacket. Some very nice grain has come out on it.

RCSignals
10-30-2010, 11:36 PM
If memory serves this leather has gone through the 'shrunken lamb' tanning process and USWings sourced it through a tannery in France. France happens to also be where the original tannery was for this hide that Tony Nowak used 30 years ago. The tannery used ot ship a great deal of the hide to Korea where many of the 'Antique' look A-2 jackets were made in the '80s. Even some of the Avirex antique A-2s were made in Korea, although most were made by Schott and continue to be as the 'Cockpit' label.

I don't believe cold water washing or soaking of normal smooth tanned lamb skin will result in this same dramatic effect.

The Last Crusader
10-31-2010, 12:24 AM
??? Are these pics of the same jacket?!?!? ???

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3127/dsc0063k.jpghttp://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5571/dsc03192p.jpg

I sure hope not! Weston, that first picture is in my opinion a PERFECT Raiders jacket, in fit, color, texture and everything! Please tell me you didn't put it in the wash! :'(

Michael

RCSignals
10-31-2010, 01:31 AM
Keep working it Weston as it dries, so the pockets and flaps etc don't dry distorted.

Weston
10-31-2010, 07:15 AM
Easy there Michael! It is indeed the same jacket. I'll get some pics up when it dries. I know it's a radical change, and I don't usuallly go for this kind of thing, but I had my reasons for doing it. I've been wearing it as it dries, and the fit really hasn't changed other than the damp leather conforming to my body. I was stunned by the diffference at first, but am increasingly pleased with the results.

Weston

Weston
11-02-2010, 12:46 AM
It's mostly dry now, so here's the update.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1548/dsc0455k.jpg

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3135/dsc0446b.jpg

It's stiff as a board right now, but I really like how it turned out!

Weston

RCSignals
11-02-2010, 03:48 AM
Just going by the photos it does look like it shrunk up some.
Keep wearing it and it will likely soften and stretch out a little.

Is it just the photo or has it started to smooth a bit?

Weston
11-02-2010, 04:12 AM
It may just be the picture. It really isn't smooth anywhere now; it's sort of pebbled up like you might see on a goatskin jacket. The grain settled down just a bit as the jacket lost moisture. As it was drying, I noticed you could rub the leather smooth where it was pebbling (not talking about the striations here) if you were inclined to do so. I like that it knocked the shine off of it, and it did retain the parallel striations on the right chest panel. The do look different now, but they are still there.

Weston

RCSignals
11-02-2010, 04:27 AM
you may find if you stretch the leather in different directions the grain changes slightly as you do this as well, increasing in some areas, becoming smoother in others.

neutronbomb
11-03-2010, 05:15 PM
Weston, would you mind showing a few close up pictures of what you're talking about with the grain and being able to smooth it out. I think this is an interesting leather with what washing it did to it. Thanks Weston.

RCSignals
11-03-2010, 06:06 PM
Weston is it starting to soften up with use/wear?

Weston
11-04-2010, 12:11 AM
It is really softening up now. I gave it a light coat of Pecards last night and that helped alot. I'll get some close ups as soon as I get a chance, as well as some full length shots now that the jacket has stabilized.

Weston

Weston
11-07-2010, 03:16 AM
Ok, here's a few shots I took today. I gave it a good coat of Pecards the other day, and have been wearing it alot. It's softened up considerably, but it still has a way to go. Even so, it has relaxed a bit, and gained some length, at this point just about the same as new. Neutronbomb, the areas that I was able to smooth when the jacket was damp are indistinguishable now, but at the time the only difference it made was to the fine grain on the surface (see the area of the pocket flap).

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1930/dsc0437copyj.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3610/dsc0462xj.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6406/dsc0465l.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4566/dsc0440cq.jpg

I will stress that this is an irreversible effect. It will never be the same again, so think two or three times before doing it! I think it was an absolute success in my case; I could not be happier with the results. That said, I hope to see alot of these jackets age naturally. From here on, normal wearing will be all that this jacket will endure.

Weston

HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
11-07-2010, 01:26 PM
That's good advice Weston, results can vary I 'm sure. Yours looks good and I love the red undertones. I would like to see one of these with just a cold soak. Cheers,

HWJJ

The Last Crusader
11-07-2010, 05:10 PM
Sorry about "flipping out" earlier..... :-[

Your jacket looks great!

Michael

RCSignals
11-07-2010, 07:17 PM
Looking good.
In the photos it appears it has smooth out some since it dried?

Weston
11-07-2010, 08:44 PM
No problem at all there Michael! It was a completely crazy thing to do, and your reaction was that of a sane person witnessing an act of insanity. This is the one and only time I'll ever subject a jacket to this; I just had to see for myself if this leather would really react so dramatically. I have had that question answered with a vengence!

Yes RC, I think the jacket has smoothed out a bit, and overall the grain "calmed down" as it has dried out, been worn, and worked over with leather dressing. That first picture I posted immediately after the wash, it was basically like a big wet sponge. It's still got a ways to go as far as breaking in, but time will take care of that!

Weston

jasonalun
11-08-2010, 02:05 AM
That really is beautiful-looking leather now, Weston. I just wonder why it is so thick-looking? You may not know Weston (unless you are a leather connoisseur) so I'm just asking this to the forum in general and maybe someone who knows might be able to answer. I've seen a lot of striated lamb leathers and jackets like this, but none of them had such a chunky look to them (not saying that's bad) and I wonder if it is how the leather was processed, or if it is a different kind of lamb than what the others I've seen were, or what. Just curious.

RCSignals
11-08-2010, 02:30 AM
Dr Jones I think these are actually sheep skin and not lamb skin.

Weston
11-08-2010, 02:50 AM
I have no idea. Could be Rhino for all I know.

Weston