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neutronbomb
10-02-2010, 09:10 PM
It looks a lot like a Raiders/Raiders style jacket along with the hat. Can't tell if there's patch pockets, but maybe the collar stand ends at the start of the storm flap and a seam across the chest??

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/th_IMG_0002-1.jpg (http://s615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/?action=view&current=IMG_0002-1.jpg)
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/IMG_0002-1.jpg
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/th_mo_18.jpg (http://s615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/?action=view&current=mo_18.jpg)
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/mo_18.jpg

Same guy, different guy in the background?
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/th_picture7q.jpg (http://s615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/?action=view&current=picture7q.jpg)
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/picture7q.jpg
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/picture7q-1.jpg
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/picture7q-2.jpg

jasonalun
10-02-2010, 11:23 PM
I think that first guy has more of a suit-jacket type lapel, not a Raiders collar, if you ask me. The first guy appears older, seems to have a white/grey moustache - the second guy appears clean-shaven. They also appear to have different facial structures, so I don't think they are the same guy. Just my opinion, since you asked. ;D

Kt Templar
10-02-2010, 11:43 PM
The first guy I hazard a guess at Terry Leonard (though I don't even know if he was involved in the London shooting) the second one kinda looks like Martin Grace, though he could just as easily be Vic Armstrong!

http://www.debbieevans.com/images/news_images/terryleonard.jpg

http://www.bondstars.com/images/martin_grace.jpg

However, I think both these guys are just stand ins and in the purest sense, the guy dressed as the star who 'stands in' whilst they are lighting and such.

Oddly enough there is a 'Jack Dearlove' credited as Ford's stand in. He also seemed to have done some of the Star Wars films maybe he was Ford's 'officlal' stand in. What a weird claim to fame!

The Last Crusader
10-02-2010, 11:56 PM
However, I think both these guys are just stand ins and in the purest sense, the guy dressed as the star who 'stands in' whilst they are lighting and such.
I always assumed the guy in the first shot was a stunt double, but I think you're right here, KT. The pics I've seen of the actual stunt doubles always show them wearing pretty good looking gear. This jacket is close enough for a stand-in, but too far off for film.

Michael

crismans
10-03-2010, 03:37 AM
This falls right under the "you learn something new everyday" file. I had always assumed that the first guy was a stunt double (I've always thought he bore a strong resemblence to Leonard as well, KT, but I don't think Leonard was part of the London filming).

I'm thinking the second guy is Grace, but I'm not sure what exactly got me thinking in that direction.

Chewbacca Jones
10-03-2010, 06:07 PM
My money is on stand-ins of some sort, since their clothing only approximates Indy's. Stuntmen would not wear stuff so obviously different.

These pics do make me think of another question, though. Could some of the "confusion" over who supplied what for the Indy films be further scrambled by suppliers for the stand-in outfits who don't know what their stuff was really used for? ???

Kt Templar
10-03-2010, 07:45 PM
Berman's would know exactly which piece was going where.

Interesting is how the lapels on the first jacket look like the pre-production painting ones, though I think that is just a co-incidence.

neutronbomb
10-03-2010, 11:13 PM
Yeah, I was thinking it reminded me of this:
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Jacket%20Pictures/IMG_0003-1.jpg

jasonalun
10-03-2010, 11:23 PM
That exact Steranko picture is what I was thinking of, too. Those kind of lapels are what I was calling "suit jacket lapels."

Gunslinger
10-04-2010, 02:22 AM
Yeah, I reckon he's a stand-in and the jacket is just a plain suit-style leather jacket. It looks like they literally went "We need a jacket and it has to be brown leather. What've you got?"

Chewbacca Jones
10-04-2010, 03:02 AM
Berman's would know exactly which piece was going where.


I'm not saying every supplier would be uninformed, but some are - or just don't pay much attention. With all the hands that have been thrust in and out of the Indy costume pie over the years, legit and otherwise... It might be interesting to find out where this mystery jacket came from.

Weston
10-04-2010, 04:19 AM
I don't know about the rest of this topic, but I have a Jim Steranko accurate bag strap in my gear, and I'm oddly pleased about that! :D

Weston