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HENRY JONES JR.
01-17-2013, 03:40 AM
I just bought a vintage Christys' of London fur felt fedora (This time in my size, no stretching!)

I thought it looked similar to Indy's hat, and still wanted one that I don't have to worry if it get's banged around a bit, as I plan on actually wearing it (Still haven't really done anything with the Herbert Johnson that was 1/8th too small, as that was to the hat I'd wear for adventuring, while the mint Herbert Johnson would be taken car of)

It never had a lining in it, and it's in good shape.

I have never done it before, but I plan on putting on an Indy type ribbon myself on it. The quality looks like it's a well made hat. It has a leather headband with the "made in England" stamped in the headband.

What are members opinions on these hats?

Does anyone own one?

Is it decent quality?

I'd like to know what you know, and what you think!


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/lond.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/lon.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/lo.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/londo.jpg

fenris
01-17-2013, 04:04 PM
Looks like all it needs is a reblock and a new ribbon.

HENRY JONES JR.
01-17-2013, 11:16 PM
Looks like all it needs is a reblock and a new ribbon.

It sure does. I plan on buying a new ribbon for it. I have absolutely no idea how I'm going to do this, or what I'm doing, as I have no hat skills at all, but I'm going to look for a step by step guide on the computer (I saw one once, and need to re find it.) on making fedora hat ribbons for the dumb man.

What is the general opinion on here on these hats? Are they fairly decent hats for making them into Indy hats?

Also, does anyone know how to obtain a satin liner for a fedora? Looked on ebay, and can't find any.

Gunslinger
01-17-2013, 11:23 PM
I have no idea when Christys and Herbert Johnson started coming out of the same supplier, but from a certain point, they became one and the same in terms of the actual components.

For your liners (and a bunch of other things for making hats), check out http://www.hatsupply.com/hatlinings.htm

HENRY JONES JR.
01-17-2013, 11:27 PM
I have no idea when Christys and Herbert Johnson started coming out of the same supplier, but from a certain point, they became one and the same in terms of the actual components.

For your liners (and a bunch of other things for making hats), check out http://www.hatsupply.com/hatlinings.htm

Thank you sir! Thank you!

I saw the link, and checked it out. Is one better than the other? Which would be best for an indy hat? White Acetate, or silk?

HENRY JONES JR.
01-18-2013, 12:03 AM
More photos. This is a used hat, which is fine with me as it was cheap to buy. I just want to fix it up the best I can for that INDY look. I suppose I could simply put in the size 6 herbert Johnson liner in it, as it's not being used at the moment...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/london3.jpg


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/london.jpg


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/london1.jpg


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/london2.jpg

Gunslinger
01-18-2013, 01:29 AM
Ooh. That's an older one - nice sweatband. Great score. The new sweatbands are nowhere near as good.

I'd go the top one for $3.95.

HENRY JONES JR.
01-18-2013, 02:13 AM
Ooh. That's an older one - nice sweatband. Great score. The new sweatbands are nowhere near as good.

I'd go the top one for $3.95.

Gunslinger, It's an older one? Fantastic!! The bidding started at $19.00 U.S., or buy it now for $39.00. I used the buy it now. I may try a hatter near me to put on a new ribbon (not sure if the place even does that, as they sell hats). Haven't decided if I'm going to do it myself, or have a pro do it.

HENRY JONES JR.
01-18-2013, 02:20 AM
What do you guess? Vintage 60's 70's 80's? What would you bet?

Gunslinger
01-18-2013, 04:33 AM
Based on the sweatband, I'd say 80s. (That's comparing it to other English hats of the 70s / 80s, as I've never seen the inside of a Christys of that era).

Just do it yourself man - tutorial coming soon!

HENRY JONES JR.
01-18-2013, 05:11 AM
Based on the sweatband, I'd say 80s. (That's comparing it to other English hats of the 70s / 80s, as I've never seen the inside of a Christys of that era).

Just do it yourself man - tutorial coming soon!

Cool! Looking forward to it Mate!

HENRY JONES JR.
01-20-2013, 03:49 AM
I have no idea when Christys and Herbert Johnson started coming out of the same supplier, but from a certain point, they became one and the same in terms of the actual components.

For your liners (and a bunch of other things for making hats), check out http://www.hatsupply.com/hatlinings.htm


Ooh. That's an older one - nice sweatband. Great score. The new sweatbands are nowhere near as good.

I'd go the top one for $3.95.


You know, this must be what the old felt was like on the older Herbert Johnsons, as this one is very light, soft, and floppy! I've never felt fur felt that feels like this before! The brim is shorter than the Herbert Johnson's brim on this hat. The tag on the inside (hidden behind the soft, very thin leather sweatband) is printed "New Fawn". The felt is lighter in color, and feel than my modern Herbert Johnson. I think this may be what you guys were saying about the older felt used in the film hats before they switched over at some point. Is it possible Christys sourced this from the same supplier as Herbert Johnson did at the time? It's feel is incredible!

This hat doesn't have any stiffner on it that I can tell, and although I don't think it was made to be, it's basicly "crushable", as it can be crafted back in shape in seconds if crushed.

This is one very nice, lightweight fur felt fedora.

Answers, opinions and comments wanted, and appreciated.

- HENRY JONES JR.

neutronbomb
01-20-2013, 05:54 AM
I really like the look of the felt. It reminds me of the Raiders in some pics.

HENRY JONES JR.
01-20-2013, 06:12 AM
I really like the look of the felt. It reminds me of the Raiders in some pics.


I agree. I've never seen or felt fine fur felt like this, and I just can't wait to put on a ribbon on it. It's so soft. NOW I understand when someone talks about vintage felt. Why aren't hat makers making felt like THIS anymore? Man....they really should if possible.

deadseascrolls
01-21-2013, 01:44 AM
I've got a brand new Christy's liner that I'd be willing to part with if you're interested in keeping your Christy's all original. Just PM me if interested.

HENRY JONES JR.
01-21-2013, 02:03 AM
I've got a brand new Christy's liner that I'd be willing to part with if you're interested in keeping your Christy's all original. Just PM me if interested.

Your EXTREMELY KIND! However, mine originally did not come with a liner, and I put in my HJ hat liner to see what it would feel like, but it wasn't comfortable, as the crown is not as tall as the HJ's hats.

THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH for you kind offer deadseascrolls!! Indy_cheers

neutronbomb
06-10-2015, 02:49 AM
I got one also that looks like HJJs. Same original ribbon also. Picked it up in San Francisco from the owner of a hat shop. It was one of his display hats. Had it for years. Thought it was from maybe the 60's. Paper thin felt. Really looks like the Raiders felt.

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/Miscellaneous/256C08D0-3A2F-4F18-832E-9868678884EB_zpsid2jasnm.jpg~original

photo color is very close to the naked eye. Just a few shades darker to the eye:
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/Miscellaneous/4B0DD0D4-1399-4CA5-8E13-1CD370F44E0C_zpslfuftpdu.jpg~original

Gunslinger
06-12-2015, 01:41 AM
Cool, man. Close to your size, too! :)

neutronbomb
06-12-2015, 02:04 AM
Thanks. These marked sizes can be screwy though. It says 57, but I could use a couple extra millimeters. When I have them made at my size 56.3 - 56.4 they fit perfect. So I don't know.

Would love to know why modern felts are so much thicker though.

Gunslinger
06-12-2015, 03:47 AM
If it's super thin but dense felt my guess would be 1978 - mid 1980s or so. Before that, British hats were thicker and dense, then when felt became cheaper and crappier after the era of that hat, they were less dense. I guess they had to make them thicker again to make up for the lack of quality.