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indydude18
02-28-2012, 02:04 AM
Just thought you guys would like to know what the copy of Sparks old Leather Concessionaires jacket looks like. This is NOT a copy of the Hero jacket that Tony had to duplicate, but rather a copy of a very early Leather Concessionaires jacket that Sparks owns. This is roughly a size 44 and feels like very thin lambskin. This is jacket 888/888. This jacket may have been in the same room as the Hero! Trippy! Enjoy guys! :afro:

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RCSignals
02-28-2012, 03:19 AM
Thanks. Did you buy it?

Tony told me he made of a cowhide. The jacket created some controversy when it was first shown as people thoughtit was a copy of the real Raiders jacket and started to say Tony could not have had a Raiders jacket, it was all a ruse

indydude18
02-28-2012, 03:34 AM
Hey RC, yes I did buy it! ;D

I've never owned a cowhide jacket, but this leather feels very very very thin. Maybe a close-up picture of the grain would help?

Weston
02-28-2012, 02:38 PM
That's a fine aquisition! The leather looks just like my old Wested in dark brown lamb.

jnicktem
02-28-2012, 04:41 PM
Nice! You picked this up on eBay??? HOW DID I MISS THIS?!?!

RCSignals
02-28-2012, 07:14 PM
Is the number embroidered in the lining? Can you show a photo of the lining?

indydude18
02-28-2012, 08:19 PM
Is the number embroidered in the lining? Can you show a photo of the lining?


No, it isn't. It looks like its Sharpied in a metallic grey color. Why do you ask?



Nice! You picked this up on eBay??? HOW DID I MISS THIS?!?!


The early bird gets the worm, Nick! :whip:


That's a fine aquisition! The leather looks just like my old Wested in dark brown lamb.


Yupp! Really reminds me of the early Wested's as well!

RCSignals
02-28-2012, 10:16 PM
This should be the your jacket

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neutronbomb
03-01-2012, 03:14 AM
Unfortunately, I don't remember whether 888 was made from lamb or cowhide. I believe originally Mr. Sparks asked for it to be in lambskin. But, there was quite a bit of back and forth with everything going on. The second Sparks jacket (maybe 88?) made with The Imam's/Hawaii specs, I believe was made with a beautiful cowhide. So maybe one in lamb and one in cowhide? I know there's a thread in here somewhere that discusses the timeline a bit, but the 888 jacket (hence the leather patch) and also likely Slydini's and Adam's from Canada was made prior to the second film jacket coming in to Tony from a movie executive.

Here's some photos http://www.fortuneandglory.org/index.php?topic=706.msg7263#msg7263 from the reboot thread http://www.fortuneandglory.org/index.php?topic=706.0

And a few that show the writing in the inside pocket. Also, a "tag" was made for it that was not sewn into the jacket.
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RCSignals
03-01-2012, 08:40 AM
also likely Slydini's and Adam's from Canada was made prior to the second film jacket coming in to Tony from a movie executive.

I don't think that is the case. Yes Tony had copied Sparks jacket and at the time he sent it Sparks believed it was a genuine movie jacket, I do think after that point and after he had the real jacket Tony was experimenting as he said, trying to present a jacket with details more in line with proper jacket making. He did know with slydini and Adams jackets about the leather of the movie jacket. It was after those that he realised the 'fans' wanted the "Fd up" jacket. or as some say 'warts and all'
Remember at one point Tony had both jackets, and after seeing the real jacket knew Sparks wasn't. He told Sparks he had the real jacket but according to Tony Sparks still wanted a copy of his Leather Concessionaires. You may be right that it was the movie jacket copy for Sparks that was made of cowhide and the the Leather Concessionaires copy a lamb skin.

There are more jackets out there like Slydinis and Adams as well, as Tony had requests from others outside the 'community', before the fact he had the movie jacket was revealed on that other forum.

There are people out there who will still never believe Tony had the movie jacket.

neutronbomb
03-01-2012, 02:17 PM
Your right of course about Tony knowing about the leather with Slydini's jacket. I'm not sure about for Adam's as it was made with a totally different leather. The sewer mentioned it was one of the very, very first ones after Sparks. Like the second or something. I don't know about Slydini's in the timeline of being made. However, all the specs like for instance the rounded pockets were spot on to the leather concessionaire's jacket with both Slydini's and Adam's jackets. Especially for Adam's jacket as it was in the shop for some rework when I was there. All the measurements matched exactly.

And yes, some people will never believe. I can actually see the perspective from where they're coming from. For me personally, there's a handful of reasons why I do believe. Among them are that I got to know Tony and believe in his character. His word was something he took very, very, very seriously. Absolutely NOT the scamming type. I mean also, how many people have tried to copy the Raiders jacket from screen grabs over 30 years. He nailed it out the gate when he said the real one showed up. I could go on, but this has been hashed out pretty much I think.

RCSignals
03-01-2012, 07:23 PM
The photos above are great showing the leather Concessionaires jacket with the duplicate. It also shows a great job of 'aging' on that duplicate. Tony out did himself on another jacket people refuse to believe wasn't vintage as well. he was a master at this, and really knew what to do.

neutronbomb
03-02-2012, 03:51 PM
Yeah for sure. You scored on this one indydude18! I need to follow ebay more closely. I would have tried for this one myself even though a 44 is too small.

indydude18
03-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Thanks everyone for your kind words about this jacket! I'm super stoked to have been able to grab it!



The photos above are great showing the leather Concessionaires jacket with the duplicate. It also shows a great job of 'aging' on that duplicate. Tony out did himself on another jacket people refuse to believe wasn't vintage as well. he was a master at this, and really knew what to do.

You're totally right RC. The aging looks totally natural, not artificial in any sense. In other words, super awesome. I still owe you photos of the lining, I'll take some tonight! :)



Yeah for sure. You scored on this one indydude18! I need to follow ebay more closely. I would have tried for this one myself even though a 44 is too small

I sure did! Thanks NB! I've been wearing this jacket pretty regularly, and there's no way this is Cowhide. It has to be lambskin. It drapes so perfectly and the hide feels super light and thin, windbreaker status. I'm guessing this is what those early LC jackets felt like.

Thanks RC

RCSignals
03-06-2012, 03:23 AM
It's very possible that one is a lamb and the other was cowhide.

Returningson
03-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Yes, i believe thats the case. He made two for sparks, one lamb and one cowhide. 'Dude's jacket definitely has all the characteristics of lambskin...Great jacket with interesting history!