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Kaplan
01-08-2012, 07:50 PM
I've been tossing around the idea of picking up a Hero from Peter for some time now. I used to be pretty well versed in the list of SA raiders specs, but it's been a while.... and I'm rusty.
In your opinions, what are the inaccuracies of the Wested Hero? If you guys were ordering a hero as a custom order, what would you ask him to change?

indymassilia
01-08-2012, 10:58 PM
Hi Kaplan!
I have ask Peter to change the lenght of the leather side straps,i think they are too long.
I take the same measurements of the Last Crusade jacket,i mean 6,5 inches rather than 8,5 inches.
Bye,Georges

Kaplan
01-09-2012, 01:06 AM
Hi Kaplan!
I have ask Peter to change the lenght of the leather side straps,i think they are too long.
I take the same measurements of the Last Crusade jacket,i mean 6,5 inches rather than 8,5 inches.
Bye,Georges

Thanks for the suggestion. Just wondering though, why base your Raiders jacket specs from an LC jacket?

RCSignals
01-09-2012, 05:06 AM
I think 8.5 inches is too long for the side straps. 6.5 inches sounds closer, I'd have to measure mine. But to have too long straps is better than too short. You can shorten long straps.

K-Wad
01-09-2012, 05:48 AM
I think the side straps are too long as well.
Mine measure 9" overall.
6.5" - 7" would look much better.
I also wasn't a fan of their new strap buckles at first, but, they're beginning to grow on me.

Kaplan
01-10-2012, 07:41 PM
When I order a hero, do I still need to ask for the collar halfway to stormflap, armseams below yoke seam, and zipper to the bottom? Or is that standard now? It seems like some jackets I see don't have the collar/stormflap and arm seams correct, and some do.

K-Wad
01-11-2012, 08:59 PM
Kaplan,

Those details are supposed to come standard on the Hero.
My jacket had everything in place without having to ask for it.

RCSignals
01-11-2012, 09:40 PM
I think that is the point of Wested's Hero, and they may not even take requests for changes other than size.
If you have seen different versions with wrong details those are likely not the Hero.

K-Wad
01-12-2012, 01:18 AM
Here's a couple shots of my new Hero in seal brown soft goat. You can see most of the details.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/mypetelvis/DSCF1785.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/mypetelvis/DSCF1773.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/mypetelvis/DSCF1775.jpg

The fit is way different from my old Raiders.
Slimmer in the chest , much slimmer in the sleeves, larger neck hole, and the stormflap and back are the same length.

I'm loving this jacket.

Dagda
01-12-2012, 02:35 AM
K-Wad, is the leather of your jacket thicker than your cowhide legend? Have you ever felt a Wested washed goat? If so, how does the goat leather of your Wested Hero compare to that? Does anybody else out there have any info on this? I'm wondering how this new soft goat compares to other leathers. I'm interested in one.

K-Wad
01-12-2012, 04:05 AM
Dagda,

The new goat is a little more firm and a little heavier than my old authentic lamb, but, not as heavy/stiff as my Legend.
If I am remembering correctly, Peter said it is around 1mm +/- thick.

Unfortunately, I've never felt the old washed goat.

indymassilia
01-12-2012, 01:35 PM
AH!Kaplan!
One thing very important about the HERO jacket is to choose the good back lenght!
I explain; when i ordered my first Hero in chrunken lambskin a few months ago,i check 26 inches for the back lenght wich was my perfect back lenght ,this measurement fit perfectly my Raiders Standard jacket,i'm 1.80M-5.92 Feet and my weight is 176 LB-80 Kg.
And when i received my HERO,the back lenght (26 inches) was really too long,it 's look moore like a dress than a leather jacket,ahahah!
No problem i sold it to a friend (he is 1,90M-6.26 feet).
I have to order two other HERO jackets to find the good back lenght;one with 24 inches (to small) and finally 24,50 inches was perfect and when i put the two jackets together,the back lenght are the same...
Maybe it can help you...
Bye,Georges

neutronbomb
01-12-2012, 03:40 PM
Can you post some photos indymassilla so we can see what the 24.5 back length looks like.

indymassilia
01-12-2012, 05:37 PM
Hi!Neutrobomb!
I will try to post some pictures of my jackets,but i'm new in this forum,and i don't know how to post some pictures,maybe i need to have a account at "Image shack" or "Flickr"..?

indymassilia
01-12-2012, 05:49 PM
http://georgesmassilia.deviantart.com/art/Indiana-Jones-jacket-shrunken-lambskin-279011011

The first Hero jacket i bought from Wested,leather-shrunken lambskin,measurements:
-size 44.
-sleeve 26.50.
-back lenght 26.
http://georgesmassilia.deviantart.com/art/Indiana-Jones-jacket-shrunken-lambskin-279011011

neutronbomb
01-12-2012, 05:52 PM
I use photobucket. I think it's fairly easy to use. The process I've Found that works is after you open an account to click on the button that says upload from computer, choose the photos from whatever folder on your hard drive they are stored in. Once they are uploaded you choose the option on each picture to select the code to be uploaded on message boards or forums. It starts with an [img] code. Select the full image option, copy the code, and then paste in your F&G post. I have to run for a bit, but I'm sure if you run into trouble you can ask here and folks will be happy to help out. :drink:

indymassilia
01-12-2012, 06:12 PM
Thank you very much NeutroBomb ..
I just finished give you the link of the pictures with my DEVIANTART's link...
The Wested Hero in Crispe(at this moment the shrunken lambskin was out of stock!!) with the 24 inches measurement for the back lenght :
http://georgesmassilia.deviantart.com/#/d4m46zv

And finally my favorite hero jacket in crispe with 24.50 inches for the back lenght and the shorter leather side straps i speak above:
http://georgesmassilia.deviantart.com/#/d4m47gi
http://georgesmassilia.deviantart.com/#/d4m47ky
For this jacket i ask Wested to fit the jacket with the most less crispe lambskin they have in stock(if they can of course do that..)to avoid the "dinosaur-Raptor" effect,ahaha!!
Bye,Georges

RCSignals
01-12-2012, 08:54 PM
That is an important point George's about back length. The Hero is made as the original just as the TN Raider was. What we know about conventional fit and what works for us with other jackets does not apply to this one! The original had a back length of 23" which because of the way this jacket fits is more like a 25" or more back length of most other jackets.
Many people refuse to believe this and end up with something much too long when they specify a longer back length.

Dagda
01-13-2012, 01:38 AM
Dagda,

The new goat is a little more firm and a little heavier than my old authentic lamb, but, not as heavy/stiff as my Legend.
If I am remembering correctly, Peter said it is around 1mm +/- thick.

Unfortunately, I've never felt the old washed goat.





You've got a Bantu Wind also, right? I think I remember seeing it a while back. Would you say the new goat is thicker and more substantial than that?

Kaplan
01-13-2012, 03:55 PM
I wear a size 44 jacket. I'm 5'10" @165lbs. My best fitting raiders jacket (magnoli goat) has a back length of 25" from base of collar stand to bottom. The Mag's stormflap is like 22.5" starting from the bottom of the collar stand. So I should order a 23" back for the Hero?

neutronbomb
01-13-2012, 05:57 PM
I wear a size 44 jacket. I'm 5'10" @165lbs. My best fitting raiders jacket (magnoli goat) has a back length of 25" from base of collar stand to bottom. The Mag's stormflap is like 22.5" starting from the bottom of the collar stand. So I should order a 23" back for the Hero?


It depends, do you wear your pants right at the bottom of your belly button over the top of the love handles? You're the one who has to wear it. Get what you're comfortable with and what you think looks good on you. Sometimes the cut of the jacket from the different manufactures can also make a difference where it hangs.

click, then click again for 100%.
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Pants/th_pantsheight_composite1.jpg (http://s615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Pants/?action=view&current=pantsheight_composite1.jpg)
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Pants/pantsheight_composite1.jpg

RCSignals
01-13-2012, 06:34 PM
I wear a size 44 jacket. I'm 5'10" @165lbs. My best fitting raiders jacket (magnoli goat) has a back length of 25" from base of collar stand to bottom. The Mag's stormflap is like 22.5" starting from the bottom of the collar stand. So I should order a 23" back for the Hero?


You can't compare as the Magnoli isn't made like the original. The fit isn't the same. given what you say about your height I wouldn't go longer than 24" back on that

K-Wad
01-13-2012, 07:58 PM
The original had a back length of 23" which because of the way this jacket fits is more like a 25" or more back length of most other jackets.
Many people refuse to believe this and end up with something much too long when they specify a longer back length.


This is true. My Hero has a back length of 23", yet, it falls to about the same place as my USW, which has a 25" back.






Dagda,

The new goat is a little more firm and a little heavier than my old authentic lamb, but, not as heavy/stiff as my Legend.
If I am remembering correctly, Peter said it is around 1mm +/- thick.

Unfortunately, I've never felt the old washed goat.





You've got a Bantu Wind also, right? I think I remember seeing it a while back. Would you say the new goat is thicker and more substantial than that?


Most definatey. The goat feels much more substantial than my Bantu Wind.

Kaplan
01-19-2012, 03:39 PM
Well I placed an order. Peter told me that I should order a 25" back. You guys said 24". So I split the difference at 24.5" ;)
I have a long torso, so I think it should work out fine (at least I hope it will be). Anyone know Wested's order processing time these days?

Kt Templar
01-19-2012, 05:06 PM
Not heard too many stories of long waits recently. 3 weeks possibly?

I believe the CS inspired rush has died down.

Dagda
01-19-2012, 10:49 PM
I also have a Hero question. The sleeves on my LC/CS are 26 inches. How long would I want them to be on a Wested Hero? Thinking about getting one. The back length on my LC/CS is 25.5 inches, approximately, and feels a tad bit too short. What length would I want on a Wested Hero? If the new seal brown soft goat is distressed, what color is the leather itself? White, brown, gray, pink?

RCSignals
01-20-2012, 03:59 AM
Dagda they are different cuts of jacket so it's hard to determine the back length needed for the hero based on the LC/CS.
All I can say is the hero back length can be shorter and end up falling in tha same place as the back of a "longer" LC/CS.

Kaplan
01-21-2012, 04:30 AM
Dagda they are different cuts of jacket so it's hard to determine the back length needed for the hero based on the LC/CS.
All I can say is the hero back length can be shorter and end up falling in tha same place as the back of a "longer" LC/CS.

I'm assuming that is somehow due to the wide neck opening, and the wide shoulders? The way the rear collar sits back away from the neck, and how the jacket hangs past the shoulders?

I wonder why Peter told me to order my usual back length. ???

Dagda
01-21-2012, 01:37 PM
Kaplan, I wouldn't sweat it. Here's why. I ordered a 26" sleeve on my LC because my arms, from shoulder to first thumb knuckle, are exactly that long. I was measuring my LC jacket yesterday and discovered the sleeves are 24 inches! Yet, the cuff still hits the first knuckle of my thumb! I think Peter or whoever made my awesome jacket must have just compensated for the shoulders. 24" sleeves on a ROTLA would be too small. I recently picked up one of those and guess what? The sleeves are 26 inches and fit me perfect. The back is 26" and sits exactly where my 25.25" back LC sits (Wish I would have ordered a 27" inch back on that one, actually). So, if you ordered your normal size, I'm guessing they're gonna adjust the measurements to the jacket you buy. Just my theory. It's early and if I'm not making sense, forgive me.

RCSignals
01-22-2012, 05:57 AM
Dagda, are you talking about the ROTLA or HERO with that back length? They are different. A Hero wouldn't likely have that back length and sit like that, it would or should be much too long at 26". Unless you are 6'6" or so. ;)

djd
05-02-2012, 03:51 PM
Another hero question ..... Can anyone give me the actual measurements for chest and shoulders off a 42 hero? I currently have a 44 hero which I find a little too voluminous despite actually having a 45-46 chest so I'm seriously considering going down to a 42. Any help would be appreciated!

pomekichi
05-04-2012, 02:28 PM
I have shurunken lamb hero jacket 42 size.

The width of the chest is 22 inch (55.8cm)around under the arm hole.

The length of the shoulders is 21.5 inch (54.5cm).

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/17/035ab.jpg
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9044/036xi.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/137/069dw.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/070gr.jpg/

djd
05-04-2012, 02:42 PM
Thanks! ;D

Kevin Anderson
05-04-2012, 02:51 PM
How big is your size 44 djd? I imagine it'd have to be around 24 inches pit-to-pit to feel large if your chest is 45 or 46 inches around? You couldn't fit pomekichi's size 42, that's for sure!

djd
05-04-2012, 07:24 PM
The 44 is about 1" bigger pit to pit and about 1" in the shoulders. I've now ordered a 42 so we'll see if it fits or not! I may get away with it... My chest is larger higher up so the pit to put measurement probably isn't that relevant.

I know the shoulders on the hero are supposed to be oversized but I have large shoulder - much more so that Ford and the seams are too far down my arms on the 44. If you look at Ford's jacket the shoulder seams only overhang his shoulders when the neck of the jacket is fully splayed. On my Wested even with the jacket zipped up the shoulder seams are a couple of inches beyond where they should be... I'm hoping a 42 might do the trick better

djd
05-11-2012, 02:02 PM
New jacket has been shipped! You know, that's the first time I've ever had a shipping notification from Wested (usually they just arrive out of the blue). Things must be getting more organised there!

djd
05-14-2012, 04:24 PM
It arrived today. Very happy. Good fit despite being two sizes smaller than I actually measure . More inclined to hang open in the raiders manner. Leather is textured but not mad like the crispe. Love it

djd
05-14-2012, 05:28 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/5f920ab3-40a9-104b.jpg

djd
05-14-2012, 05:28 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/5f920ab3-40c4-3ab7.jpg

djd
05-14-2012, 05:29 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/5f920ab3-40dc-8351.jpg

K-Wad
05-14-2012, 07:46 PM
That's a great lookin' jacket DJD!!
The more I see of the new batch of SL, the more I like it.

djd
05-14-2012, 08:58 PM
Thanks pal. I've given the jacket a bit of a wetting in the shower and the leather is looking even better now!

IfAdventureHasAName
05-14-2012, 10:18 PM
"djd" nice looking jacket, sir. :goodjob: How's the leather? Is it soft and supple or a bit stiff? Heard stories from members of other forums who purchased jackets from the current batch of SL from Wested that it was kind of like "plastic" and bit stiff while others said jackets they've received were soft and supple. Just wondering if it is "hit or miss" with the SL from Wested.

djd
05-14-2012, 10:22 PM
Nothing wrong with the leather at all. Not stiff at all before I gave it a bit of a soaking. It's a bit crispy now but that's usual once it's been wet. Can't fault the leather. Interesting texture that looks lived in and quite like what I see on screen - minus the big striations

djd
05-15-2012, 07:47 AM
It's actually responded really well to water treatment. It's gone nice and wrinkled and the arms have creased up nicely. It's one of those hides that looks interesting enough that even I don't feel the need to distress it...

djd
05-15-2012, 09:02 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/1f51c193-1b81-4531.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/1f51c193-1b93-b905.jpg

Gunslinger
05-15-2012, 10:04 AM
Looks great. And seems to be flaring open appropriately.

djd
05-15-2012, 10:12 AM
Yes mate and I put that down to the sizing. Because its a bit tighter across the back and shoulders it has that tendency to gape rather than hang closed. The more I look at Fords jacket the more I think it's actually quite snug on him compared to the fit in LC

Kt Templar
05-15-2012, 10:41 AM
Looks great, seriously trying to stop myself from succumbing to this leather!

djd
05-15-2012, 10:51 AM
Let go.... Come to the dark side KT

djd
05-15-2012, 04:18 PM
Sorry to go on a bit but I love this leather! It is without a doubt the best leather from an indy jacket maker that I've seen. It has a ton of character, it looks a lot like what I see on the screen, it looks old and beaten up without being either and it holds creases wonderfully. I've worn it for a day and it looks twenty years old. Absolutely fab

neutronbomb
05-15-2012, 05:02 PM
Careful. You may Persuade KT yet ???

crismans
05-16-2012, 12:18 AM
Or me. I've been trying to wait for what Kurt hinted at but that leather is looking great.

K-Wad
05-16-2012, 01:15 AM
DJD

That first picture of you wearing it just nails it for me on the leather. That is what I see in the film (especially in the beginning sequence by the waterfall).
I'm really starting to kick myself now for not waiting a few more months to order.

Majormajor
02-22-2013, 12:28 AM
Sorry to go on a bit but I love this leather! It is without a doubt the best leather from an indy jacket maker that I've seen. It has a ton of character, it looks a lot like what I see on the screen, it looks old and beaten up without being either and it holds creases wonderfully. I've worn it for a day and it looks twenty years old. Absolutely fab

I'm a noob here, so forgive me if this is a stupid question. Just WHICH leather is DJD liking so much here. I've read the thread twice, and can't see a reference to the actual hide.

Gonna order a jacket very soon, so any help appreciated;)

neutronbomb
02-22-2013, 03:16 PM
He's referencing one of Wested's shrunken lambskin offerings from last year. You'll want to find out what's currently available and what it looks like though before you order. Batches of hides change and shrunken lamb can take a million different forms.

I really like djd's jacket. The way the texture and color came through on the photos really reminds me of The Prototype Jacket. Which is also the one Ford is wearing on the Bantu Wind set that HJJ posted in his thread a few days ago.

Here the prototype is again from one of the promo pics in comparison to djd's:
http://img.tapatalk.com/1f51c193-1b93-b905.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/steven-spielberg/newest%20photos/rareindy49_zps26dd567b.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/1f51c193-1b81-4531.jpg
and one of the prototype running from hovitos screencaps:
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20The%20Hovitos%20Chase%20Jacket/hovitoschase1.jpg

Majormajor
02-23-2013, 10:38 AM
Thanks for that. I guess I need some samples from Wested.

Tenured Professor
02-25-2013, 07:42 PM
Hi guys, just wanted to stick my head in contribute to this thread. I'm new here, but recognize a lot of folks from 'the other site':D I really like the vibe here;D I received my new shrunken lamb Hero this weekend, and I am beyond impressed!! It looks to be sort of a combination of the first incarnation of the SL, and the most recent one with the crinkly, mixed color hide. It is thin, but has a certain density to it, making it a bit heavier than expected..but that's a good thing. It's extremely supple and not at all stiff or crinkly. I think I will let it distress naturally. As you may know, Peter only recently removed this option from the site:'( It's a size 44, 23.5 sleeves, 24.5 back and has tons of character already! Here's some pics, and thanks for looking:whip:
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_15-55-17_543_zps9ab5ac6b.jpg
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-07-33_906_zpsc89e5846.jpg
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-04-02_524_zps990aa13f.jpghttp://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-04-09_881_zpscfebaa13.jpghttp://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-04-14_901_zpsafb42e9f.jpg

HENRY JONES JR.
02-26-2013, 12:59 AM
Hi guys, just wanted to stick my head in contribute to this thread. I'm new here, but recognize a lot of folks from 'the other site':D I really like the vibe here;D I received my new shrunken lamb Hero this weekend, and I am beyond impressed!! It looks to be sort of a combination of the first incarnation of the SL, and the most recent one with the crinkly, mixed color hide. It is thin, but has a certain density to it, making it a bit heavier than expected..but that's a good thing. It's extremely supple and not at all stiff or crinkly. I think I will let it distress naturally. As you may know, Peter only recently removed this option from the site:'( It's a size 44, 23.5 sleeves, 24.5 back and has tons of character already! Here's some pics, and thanks for looking:whip:
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_15-55-17_543_zps9ab5ac6b.jpg
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-07-33_906_zpsc89e5846.jpg
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-04-02_524_zps990aa13f.jpghttp://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-04-09_881_zpscfebaa13.jpghttp://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz280/stubadub_2010/2013-02-24_14-04-14_901_zpsafb42e9f.jpg

Nice jacket to say the least! Wear it with INDY pride Tenured Professor!

JeffDJ
02-26-2013, 02:07 AM
Yeah, great look and colour to that hide, especially in that first pic in the car. Also, that's a fine looking fedora too, TP!

crismans
02-26-2013, 02:57 AM
That's a really nice jacket, Tenured Prof. And you wear it well.

It should only get better if it gets rained on and some more grain pops out.

djd
05-10-2013, 09:19 AM
Just enjoying the pics of Tenured Profs jacket. Nice!
A couple of recent ones of mine. It's still a very cool jacket and a shame peters out of this leather...
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/959/201305101010251.jpg
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9135/201305101010381.jpg

djd
05-10-2013, 10:52 AM
Good illustration of the old jacket length argument. This jacket is longer than the S&J I have yet looks a good deal shorter due to the off the shoulder fit of the S&J....

Mr. Furious
05-10-2013, 12:01 PM
That jacket looks really cool! I likey!!!!

djd
06-26-2013, 09:44 AM
I see from the Wested site that they now have the shrunken lamb back in stock. It's still a great option even with BK and S&J out there...

Mr. Furious
08-15-2014, 09:09 PM
Here are some pics of my Wested Hero in the latest Shrunken Lamb they offer.....GREAT stuff! Mine is really lightweigth and very adventure looking. In person, it originally had ALOT of grain but thru my distressing and wearing, it is really smoothing out in some spots...weird!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406821091095_zps8yaebqa3.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406821047024_zpsxzxgyqmf.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820976685_zps8s2ffhkn.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820976685_zps8s2ffhkn.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820562155_zpsyzadsppg.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820441113_zpsctwm8zxe.jpg

Mr. Furious
08-15-2014, 09:23 PM
heres one that I gorgot but I think it is important as my Kelso Relic Hunter is in the bottom left corner and you can see how different lighting makes them look VERY similiar...
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/PicsArt_1406824636086_zpskgx0uizz.jpg

IfAdventureHasAName
08-15-2014, 11:05 PM
"Mr. Furious" your collection of gear never ceases to amaze me. That and the fact that, IMHO, are one of the few that can pull off "the look" great. :goodjob:

Really digging the color on the shrunken lamb skin!!

Gunslinger
08-16-2014, 01:17 AM
Wow. Love love love it. You always know it's perfect when it creates that uncanniness between your shots and the movie. Congrats!

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820441113_zpsctwm8zxe.jpg (http://s67.photobucket.com/user/kokorosan/media/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820441113_zpsctwm8zxe.jpg.html)

Brave Starr
12-20-2014, 01:47 AM
Hi Mr. Furious,

I've been researching for the last few months for the ideal indy jacket that would suit me best. I'm quite certain that I will buy through wested but am tossing up between cowhide TOD (look at below link) or Hero Shrunken lamb (as above in your pics!) You look about the same height/size as me. I'm 5ft 6 1/2, 74 kgs.
However my arm length measures 22 inches (from shoulder bone to just before the palm) and Wested starts at 23?

My other thoughts where a jacket that resembles the below link; it's a TOD jacket cowhide pull, I must say I like the collar and smaller pockets better on the TOD jackets, I always get the impression that Cowhide is tougher on not as drapy (I find the shrunken lamb a bit too drapy?), however look at the below pic, nicely distressed with a semi drapy look: any comments or suggestions? As always any other help from anyone is appreciated.

http://indylounge.proboards.com/thread/6005/temple-doom-jacket-pull-cowhide



Here are some pics of my Wested Hero in the latest Shrunken Lamb they offer.....GREAT stuff! Mine is really lightweigth and very adventure looking. In person, it originally had ALOT of grain but thru my distressing and wearing, it is really smoothing out in some spots...weird!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406821091095_zps8yaebqa3.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406821047024_zpsxzxgyqmf.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820976685_zps8s2ffhkn.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820976685_zps8s2ffhkn.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820562155_zpsyzadsppg.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h304/kokorosan/Wested%20Jackets/PicsArt_1406820441113_zpsctwm8zxe.jpg

crismans
12-20-2014, 04:48 PM
I actually have the sister jacket to the one that KT was selling. I absolutely love the oil pulled cowhide but I tried to get a LC jacket in the same leather without success (I did get something similar but the feel is a bit different and it's quite a bit lighter). While cowhide will never drape like lamb, Wested (since you said that was who you were considering) has some really soft cowhide that will get close. Their customer service is light years ahead of what it was as well.

Ram Man
12-20-2014, 10:58 PM
I agree. I have a Wested LC in 'antique lambstouch cowhide' and it is fantastic. Very lightweight yet strong with a subtle drape to it. Distresses very nicely as well if that was something you were considering. I seriously want a Hero in this skin!

Brave Starr
12-21-2014, 08:39 AM
Thanks for the input Crismans and Ram Man.
I'm considering the Wested Hero (it's my understanding it's there most slimmest fit?- 919 Chris king fit?) in either lamb or soft cowhide. I would love the lambstouch cowhide if they allow that?
However I wonder if they will allow alterations to the hero ie, smaller collar and pockets? More tod style?
I could I guess just order a ToD jacket from them but are the fits/ pattern looser?

crismans
12-21-2014, 03:17 PM
The Hero jacket is advertised to be based on the patterns used for the original Raiders jacket (I won't get into any of the questions on patterns, Nowak jackets, etc., here as it's a long, complicated tale that I'm not sure I can even wrap my head around ;) ). Suffice it to say, that those who have purchased one seem to like the pattern and it is more of a slim fit ala the fit of the movie jacket. Wested's Raiders offering is advertised as more of a "modern" fit, ie, cut more loose and roomy. So if you're wanting to go for more of a slim fit, I would suggest the Hero of those two offerings. The downside, for you, is that I don't think they allow any alterations to the basic pattern.

However, you seem to really like the ToD style better. Wested's ToD is based on an actual screen used jacket and is pretty slim fitting (I have one of these, as I've said). So, all that said, I would think the ToD jacket would do nicely for you. Just MHO of course.

neutronbomb
12-21-2014, 06:37 PM
I thinks it's important to jump in here and just mention that when many of us talk about who made the film jackets and who had access to a screen used jacket, that with the exception of crystal skull (or last crusade?) there is very little documentation that shows or proves it to be the case. So often when we mention that type of info it is generally understood that it has been hashed out to death and has become over time a consensus of what most of us or many of us in the hobby currently believe to be the case. There are threads everywhere to peruse about all the discussions surrounding this particular subject matter, but I mention it for those who may be new to the hobby and may not be current with the years worth of arguments and discussion about it. For a cautionary tale in accepting a general consensus as fact, we need only to look at Cows campaign of disinformation regarding the history of the gear.

So, not a criticism of any of our posters or anything as it would be a pain in the ass for someone like KT for instance to have to put in a caveat about how Wested made the original jacket(s) for raiders but, the patterns got lost...the documentation can't be found...but Noel Haward said so....etc etc etc in every post. Just a general infomercial brought to you by your friends at F&G. Carry on Indy_cheers

Brave Starr
12-22-2014, 01:03 AM
Thanks for the info guys! I've been an avid searcher of Indy gear since the late 90's and have been holding off the jacket until now so it will be my first Jacket purchase. I am partial to the Raiders 'Hero' design as it's been the jacket I've been drooling over for years, but then again from a practical standpoint the ToD Jacket is less stylistic than the Hero and might suit me better for everyday use. Then again I'm weighing up between Shrunken Lamb or Standard Lambskin or Dark Brown Lambskin?
Does anyone know or have pic examples of the difference between the standard and dark brown lambskin? I cant find an example on Wested's site. Any recommendations as to which one is more SA?

Ram Man
12-22-2014, 01:30 PM
I have had both the standard and dark brown lambskin. As far as skin texture and drape go they are basically the same. I prefer the dark brown because it looks less milk chocolatey and more accurate to what is seen on screen due to lighting and filters etc. With that in mind the behind the scenes seem to reveal the standard chocolatey color so the question is, what is screen accurate to you?

Brave Starr
12-28-2014, 06:33 PM
so the question is, what is screen accurate to you?

Thanks for that Ram... Fair point. I'm on the verge of ordering my jacket, correspondence have been slow during the holiday season but I've been doing lots of research in the waiting.
Regarding the strap buckles that wested's hero jacket has... It's my understanding the buckles in raiders were either the black buckles or the two claw buckles? They have the brass rectangular buckle with the loose bit in the middle?

How's is this SA? Am I missing something? My apologies for my ignorance. I've tried to find an answer in the forums but I must be "digging in the wrong place"

Ram Man
12-29-2014, 12:34 AM
Yes the buckles on my hero are the brass ones you refer to.

There are so many small details to consider for a screen accurate look. Placement of the stud snap for instance on the pockets (which wouldn't be noticeable when the flaps are down). The tips of the collar (pointed vs rounded). The length of the jacket has been debated as well, and yes the shape and color of the buckles. The truth is that even these details varied throughout the film depending on which jacket was used. I know we're talking about the Hero jacket but I guess the point I'm trying to make is 33 years later there is still some debate. So many of us have suffered through the headaches and the financial burden to have the perfect jacket but when its going under a truck or speeding by on a horse those little details are hardly noticeable.

I am very pleased with the Hero that Wested produces especially for the dollar amount. I know the first one is a big deal and everything should be perfect but the truth is there is only one Hero jacket but I'm confident you wont be disappointed with Wested's version :)

Brave Starr
12-30-2014, 01:19 AM
Urgent Help!

Hy guys, I'm on the verge of ordering my first Wested Hero but am a bit nervous about sizes even though I have consulted the team there.

I am 5'6", 160lbs (73kgs) and have a measured chest of 39" and a sleeve of 23".

I am thinking of putting in an order with the following measurements:

Sleeve: 23" Shortest sleeve they offer
Back: 23.5" (At first I thought 25" but Wested said to remember the jacket falls longer)
Size: 38" (I've tried a 38 jacket and it suits me well + Wested says the HEro is a looser fit than their raiders)

Is there anyone out there with a similar size to me that can comment, any other tips?

Thanks a lot!

Gunslinger
12-30-2014, 04:56 AM
My main concern is whether your sleeves are going to be long enough. You need to make sure they come at least to the first knuckle of your thumb.

I have always borne in mind that either Tony or Neutronbomb said, and that the key to a great looking jacket is the ratio between body length and sleeve length. The sleeves always have to be that bit longer than the body. You will see that in the Raiders jacket.

Brave Starr
12-30-2014, 10:45 PM
Thanks for that Gunslinger. After emails and a phone call with wested, countless hours of research and asking advice on the forums, not to mention measuring myself and re measuring myself I have finally arrived at my desired size measurements.

I must say I have found it super helpful to see the jacket sizes/measurements others have ordered plus the photos with that jacket - it really gives one a good idea of proportion...however with the understanding that no two bodies are the same and each jacket sits differently. So with that in mind I'm making my details public in the hope that it would help put a fellow first time buyer like myself in their quest to buy heir jacket. :)

So... The jacket has been ordered from Wested last night:

My details:

Height: 5'6 1/2"

Jacket: hero in authentic lambskin
Chest: 38
Sleeve: 23.5
Back: 23
Straps: 6.5"

So...now it's waiting time. - I'll keep ya'll updated!

Thanks all for your valuable input!

JeffDJ
12-31-2014, 11:28 PM
I have a Wested jacket (Last Crusade model, dark brown novapelle) and it's a size 38 too. I've got longer arms than you, I guess, as my sleeves are perfect at 25.5". The length of my jacket is 27"; originally I bought one with the length at 25", but I found it too short, especially when zipped up, as the jacket tends to rise when zipped. Adding that extra 2" helped and is the perfect length when unzipped, which is how I wear it most of the time anyway.

JeffDJ
12-31-2014, 11:40 PM
Whoops, my message above was in response to your "Urgent Help" post a few spots above. Didn't realize there was anything after it. Glad you increased the sleeve length. When I bought my jackets from Wested, the delivery time was pretty decent, if I recall. Let us know when you get it and take some pix for us to see! :D

Gunslinger
01-01-2015, 05:53 AM
Please do note that Ford was a size 42-ish, and the jacket was 23" long. I'm 6'1" / size 44ish and adjusted that to 24.5" long. anything longer than that, especially on a smaller build seems like it would be way too long to be screen accurate to me?

Brave Starr
01-01-2015, 10:57 PM
I have a Wested jacket (Last Crusade model, dark brown novapelle) and it's a size 38 too. I've got longer arms than you, I guess, as my sleeves are perfect at 25.5". The length of my jacket is 27"; originally I bought one with the length at 25", but I found it too short, especially when zipped up, as the jacket tends to rise when zipped. Adding that extra 2" helped and is the perfect length when unzipped, which is how I wear it most of the time anyway.
Too short at 27"? Amazing I think the cuts between lc hero jackets must differ as I've seen people of 6ft in height where a hero with a 24" back and it just sits above there back pockets!

Will definitely post pics once it arrives!

- - - Updated - - -

Yeah I've heard he was either a 40 or 42 with a back length of 23"? Amazing how short for a 6-ft guy would wear. 23" back length however wested does state to take 1-2 inches off your desired length as it hangs lower. Mine was 24.5" as a desired length so it took it back to 23" which is their shortest. Any shorter would make me nervous!
I guess we shall find out how it looks once it arrives!

Ram Man
01-01-2015, 11:36 PM
I'm 6'2 with a 44" chest. My Wested hero is 25.5" long and is the perfect length for me. My preferred sleeve length for me is 26". My LC is 26" long and I wish that it was an inch or two longer. That tells you how different these two jackets fit.

Looking forward to seeing your new jacket when it arrives:)

Brave Starr
01-15-2015, 08:11 PM
Update here: Wested has dispatched my Jacket, it's currently on a plane from Heathrow to NZ! Excited!

JeffDJ
01-15-2015, 09:10 PM
Yes, quite exciting when you get the dispatch email. It's on its way!! :D

Brave Starr
01-21-2015, 07:21 AM
So... an update re the jacket~it arrived on Monday morning NZ time. Excellent leather and craftsmanship. Superb work all around! Sleeves fit perfectly (23.5")... Size fit perfectly (38- 21" pit to pit)... Back length (23"), way too short!
So I've sent it back to get it fixed/remade, I don see the point in having a jacket I would feel uncomfortable wearing. I definitely look forward to having fit just right! It's too good of a jacket to not have it fit just right! Will keep you ya'll posted!

JeffDJ
01-21-2015, 06:28 PM
Yeah, my first jacket was too short as well (25"). The length was typical as leather jackets go, and maybe even for a Raiders jacket, but I didn't feel good wearing it - it just felt too short for me, so reordered the same thing but with an added 2" on the length and was happy I did. Perfecto!

Brave Starr
01-22-2015, 09:03 AM
Mmm, which makes me wonder why they instruct people to subtract the 1-2inches in the first place? It really didn't serve me anything but paying an extra 25% + postage.
Had I known... However it is a quality piece of work.

Gunslinger
01-22-2015, 07:43 PM
Did you take any pics?

RCSignals
01-22-2015, 10:37 PM
Frederick I am surprised your jacket would be too short at that length given your height

Some things to consider

The jacket is reportedly based from an A-2 jacket, and that jacket with knit at the waist is generally 23 to 24 inches length at back

The Raiders jacket cut makes it tend t "fall back" off the shoulders, giving it a slight illusion of being longer. If the Wested pattern was "corrected" the jacket may not " fall back" much

Your torso length will come into play on length for you

It IS a short jacket, and many people are simply not used to this. I have seen photos of people ending up with obviously too long ( for the dreaded screen accuracy ) because they thought the jacket was too short !

Many people believe the CS jacket was a longer jacket for example, but in original size the back length is still "short". Perception?

edited for spelling

Gunslinger
01-23-2015, 12:54 AM
100% agree, RC. Another way to put it is that the cuffs need to be noticeably slightly lower than the body for it to look right.

Nailing the length isn't hard once you have something to wear and compare to screen grabs at the same angle. (I live overlaying for best results) Pretty easy to dial up or down an inch when you are looking at reality rather than a perception of how you're looking vs. the movie.

Ram Man
01-23-2015, 03:18 AM
For me the struggle is trying to balance screen accurate with everyday comfort. I appreciate how short the movie jacket is having seen Tony's jacket at the Indy exhibit here in Edmonton. A screen accurate (length) jacket looks great with wool pants, a gun belt with a bullwhip attached and a shoulder bag. However when it comes to everyday wear I prefer the length of my jacket to at least cover my shortest t-shirt (un-tucked) so a compromise in screen accuracy (in length only) is fine with me since I typically only wear my jackets sans the gear.

Gunslinger
01-23-2015, 08:35 AM
It's funny how we all see things a little differently in terms of how we engage with the gear. I exclusively wear my jacket with modern clothes (jeans & t shirt or whatever), and find that it works well ~because~ it's short-ish.

neutronbomb
01-27-2015, 12:40 AM
+1 on the pic if you took one before sending it back. Or maybe if you have a pic of you wearing a jacket that is about the length that you are wanting. I can't believe it's too short at 23" when you're 5'6. Now, of course what you are comfortable wearing is one thing. But, if it gets to be car coat length or something then we're getting pretty far away from what would be considered a standard Indy Jacket. Here are some photos that show the length of the jacket. I'm also convinced HF is NOT 6'. More like 5'10.

One thing to note is that where the pants are worn can impact how the jacket looks as far as length goes. From the pics below, especially the compares located in the link below the last photo in this post, it looks like the pants are worn about an inch or so below the belly button. This gives several inches of jacket below the belt line. Sort of an optical illusion. But, it makes sense that it's a short jacket because Indy still needs to access the gun, whip, and bag.

Gunslinger mentioned it previously about how Tony explained the standard fit/length of a Raiders jacket in terms of ratios. Arm length to bottom of jacket ratio. Take a look at the amount of sleeve length hanging past the bottom of the jacket in those Raven Bar photos to see an example. Anyway take a look at the photos below and see what you think. Where are you wanting the jacket to hit on you?

Taken from http://www.fortuneandglory.org/threads/228-The-Long-Back-Strikes-Back!
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Short%20Jacket/platon-1.jpg
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Pants/Raven_backlength1.jpg

And because I don't want to repost the swimming suit one again. But, you should check out the compares as I think they really show what we are talking about.
http://www.fortuneandglory.org/threads/228-The-Long-Back-Strikes-Back!?p=15201&viewfull=1#post15201

Brave Starr
01-27-2015, 10:59 PM
My apologies for my short reply as I haven't been in a position to properly reply to this post.
The jacket has been received by Westd and they are in the process of remaking the jacket with an extra 1.5 inch making it a back length of 24.5.

I can totally understand if this sounds like a long back length compared with the 23.5 inch sleeves.
However when I received the first jacket (size 38, sleeve 23.5, back 23) it wore great all around but the front and back of the javket just covered my belt.
I wear my jeans 2 inches below the belly button, it sits like any Jean should - nice and snug around the hips.
When I took it out of the bag my wife and I thought... mmm looks short.
Neutron bomb - I couldn't agree more with your SA summary below and even in one frontal shot it looks as if the jacket is hanging about 2 inches below his belt.
I understand some people's sceptism however those are the facts and we'll have to wait 3 weeks for the new jacket.
Regarding images: I did take some but I was silly in that I didn't tuck in my t shirt so it's hard to see where it hangs but I will put this up in comparison with the new jacket when it arrives.
Other than the back length it's a top notch jacket, the leather is not nearly as smooth as I was led to believe and had some great grain already! And the authentic lamb was IMO... well authentic and SA.

I'm crossing my fingers for the new one.

admin
01-28-2015, 01:22 AM
Frederick is now.......da da da dummmmm.....Brave Starr :drink:

geniusoftherestoration
02-07-2015, 01:35 AM
Just enjoying the pics of Tenured Profs jacket. Nice!
A couple of recent ones of mine. It's still a very cool jacket and a shame peters out of this leather...
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/959/201305101010251.jpg
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9135/201305101010381.jpg

What back length did you choose for this one? And sleeve length?

Glenville86
02-07-2015, 04:08 PM
I have one Hero jacket among the several Indy jackets I own. It actually is my least favorite as the shoulder and upper arm sleeves are sort of tight. My standard Wested jackets fit fine.

Addressing the length of the Indy jackets - I am 6 and a half feet tall with an athletic build. Think of a football player - well, not that good. :D I am 240 pounds but not fat. The jackets that fit me best have a 28 inch back length. These are not exceptionally long but maybe a couple inches longer than SA. They just fit my build better. I do have one US Wings Legend XXL that is about a 27 in the back and it falls about an 1 1/2 below my belt. I am more concerned with the straps and buckles sitting in the right place. These jackets are great but I think 2-4 inches below the belt still looks fine if you don't dress up in gear and just use the jacket as a normal wear item.

Brave Starr
03-02-2015, 06:11 AM
My apologies for the delay guys, my remade Wested arrived last week and I only just had time to put photos up, suffice to say I am happy I got it lengthened from 23" to 24.5"
Details:
Authentic Brown Leather
Back: 24.5"
Sleeve: 23.5
Size: 38 (21" pit to pit)
Cotton lining with satin sleeves.
Strap: Request 7.5" length
Requested most lightweight leather bundle

My first impression was that it had that great leather smell. The colour I find to be quite SA, and had quite a bit of grain on it and not so smoothe as I was led to believe. It is shiny, however it is a new jacket and will be mostly wearing it for dress purposes for now. in the future I might try Mr. Furious' water spray technique.

Honest comments welcome...
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-4_zpszqpqeusi.jpg.html?sort=3&o=
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-3_zpsbpd0kwhz.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather_zpsbt wsiugk.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3

Here's the original 23.5" Jacket:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather%20sho rt_zpszgtn6iid.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4
Not the best photo for size comparison although you can see where it lines up with my jean pockets (I wore the same shirt/jeans each time for comparison)

geniusoftherestoration
03-27-2015, 09:18 PM
My apologies for the delay guys, my remade Wested arrived last week and I only just had time to put photos up, suffice to say I am happy I got it lengthened from 23" to 24.5"
Details:
Authentic Brown Leather
Back: 24.5"
Sleeve: 23.5
Size: 38 (21" pit to pit)
Cotton lining with satin sleeves.
Strap: Request 7.5" length
Requested most lightweight leather bundle

My first impression was that it had that great leather smell. The colour I find to be quite SA, and had quite a bit of grain on it and not so smoothe as I was led to believe. It is shiny, however it is a new jacket and will be mostly wearing it for dress purposes for now. in the future I might try Mr. Furious' water spray technique.

Honest comments welcome...
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-4_zpszqpqeusi.jpg.html?sort=3&o=
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-3_zpsbpd0kwhz.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather_zpsbt wsiugk.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3

Here's the original 23.5" Jacket:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather%20sho rt_zpszgtn6iid.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4
Not the best photo for size comparison although you can see where it lines up with my jean pockets (I wore the same shirt/jeans each time for comparison)

How tall are you, Brave Starr?

Brave Starr
03-28-2015, 05:48 AM
How tall are you, Brave Starr?

Hi Genius, I am 5'6" and a half on a good day! :)

geniusoftherestoration
03-29-2015, 12:11 AM
Hi Genius, I am 5'6" and a half on a good day! :)

Nice jacket, makes me want to buy a cow hide Hero... The only thing I still don't understand is sleeve length. All of you guys have them made so long! Is it that you want to hide your hands or something? :D

Gunslinger
03-29-2015, 12:55 AM
When the sleeves break in and wrinkle over time (or you speed it up by wetting them and pushing them up), you lose length, so you have to start longer.

That aside, watch the movie/s. They are at longer than normal cuff length.

Brave Starr
03-29-2015, 05:51 AM
Yes, even my jacket length might deemed as being a tiny bit too long to be SA along with the sleeves. I'm hoping to do the water treatment which will shrink it a bit. But it all depends on your personal taste and what you want to do with it.
For me I'm happy with the jacket as is but know that if it shrinks a bit it will still be a good fit.
To get my sleeve length I measure and re measured from my shoulder bone to my first thumb knuckle (digit) then I took of half an inch (as directed by Wested) as it hangs. I cross reference my measurements with other jackets as well to make sure I wasnt too off!

Brave Starr
01-30-2016, 07:05 AM
Hi team,

It has been one year and I'm posting my Wested Hero Lambskin pictures here to see what 1 Year's worth of wearing and water treatment does to it. It's a fabulous jacket!
I've worn wherever I went and it kept me nice and snug. In the beginning I treasured it quite a bit as I wanted a dress jacket and not a "worn" looking jacket, however I quickly thought... what the heck... let's get more character to it. I subsequently did the water treatment, info kindly provided by Mr. Furious, and then the rest is history. I could however have done more but I thought this suits me for the moment. Maybe when I get another jacket I'll scrub this baby up more.

From a style point of view I do find the jacket a bit on the boxy side however that's what the action pleats are for if you want to bring it in a bit.
You can see that with the water treatment the sleeves have shortened by about an inch (compare the two before/after images with the jacket open). The grain has obviously popped a lot more and looking very nicely worn in. The pockets are curling up nicely as well.

These images have been after almost one year apart and the frequency of wearing was pretty much every 2nd day! Enjoy!

before... fresh out of the box...

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm175/Bravestarr/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-3_zpsbpd0kwhz.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-3_zpsbpd0kwhz.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm175/Bravestarr/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-2_zpslss4zoia.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/Wested%20Hero%20Jacket%20Authentic%20Leather-2_zpslss4zoia.jpg.html)

Taken today...

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm175/Bravestarr/IMG_4228_zps2ndgodyh.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/IMG_4228_zps2ndgodyh.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm175/Bravestarr/IMG_4226_zpso5g0jjb5.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/IMG_4226_zpso5g0jjb5.jpg.html)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm175/Bravestarr/IMG_4220_zpsfolnvanl.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/Bravestarr/media/IMG_4220_zpsfolnvanl.jpg.html)

xmasters
06-21-2016, 05:46 PM
My apologies for my short reply as I haven't been in a position to properly reply to this post.
The jacket has been received by Westd and they are in the process of remaking the jacket with an extra 1.5 inch making it a back length of 24.5.

I can totally understand if this sounds like a long back length compared with the 23.5 inch sleeves.
However when I received the first jacket (size 38, sleeve 23.5, back 23) it wore great all around but the front and back of the javket just covered my belt.
I wear my jeans 2 inches below the belly button, it sits like any Jean should - nice and snug around the hips.
When I took it out of the bag my wife and I thought... mmm looks short.


I realise this is a year old post, and you recieved your longer length back jacket and all is well now, but reading the posts I couldn't help notice why you ended up with this problem originally. You measured your chest and it was 39", but you ordered a size 38" jacket, therefore the backlength you selected was slightly too short for you. If you'd ordered a size 40" chest rather than downsizing ever so slightly, the backlength would not have been too short for you.

Glenville86
06-22-2016, 04:16 AM
I love the Indy Jacket look after wearing 3/4 length leather jackets for years. That being said, I think many people order them too small, tight and short. Ford wears his pants in the old style cut in the movies. Modern jeans and most chino pants sit lower. I cannot stand a jacket length that sits on my belt or barely covers it. Personally, I like the back of the jacket to sit about 3-inches below the belt. I also order mine one size up for a looser fit in the Wested ones.

Going up one size as you stated will give you the longer back if you need more length.

Brave Starr
04-13-2017, 08:40 PM
"I realise this is a year old post, and you recieved your longer length back jacket and all is well now, but reading the posts I couldn't help notice why you ended up with this problem originally. You measured your chest and it was 39", but you ordered a size 38" jacket, therefore the backlength you selected was slightly too short for you. If you'd ordered a size 40" chest rather than downsizing ever so slightly, the backlength would not have been too short for you."

You're most probably right, that's what happens when you take too much control and not trust the vendors. :/