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PLATON
01-28-2011, 06:26 PM
What is the default position of pocket snaps in TN jackets.

Recall, that they were too low, and someone has ordered a jacket and requested that they are placed somewhat higher.

Anyone has any current jacket photos to show the pocket snaps pls?

Appeciate your assistance.

RCSignals
01-28-2011, 06:52 PM
I don't know that they were placed that precisely on the original in the first place.
Wasn't the person who wanted them placed higher the same person who wanted one pocket placed closer to the storm flap? (which was also wrong)

Place the snaps where they look right to you. Too high and the flap center will curl up.

On my first TN Raider jacket they are placed (center of the snap) 1" from the point of the flap, and end up 1.5" from the top of the pocket itself.
both sides precisely the same.

On my second TN Raider jacket they are placed (center of the snap) 1-1/8" from the point of the flap, and end up 1-3/8" from the top of the pocket itself.
both sides precisely the same.

I'm not sure you'd want them too much higher.

neutronbomb
01-29-2011, 12:41 AM
Gunslinger did a whole matching collage overlay system on the pocket flaps Platon. He'd be a good one to ask about if he did anything different on his jackets other than the standard. It's right here on page 2 of this thread:

Pocket size revisited (http://www.fortuneandglory.org/index.php?topic=1190.15)

PLATON
11-03-2011, 05:16 PM
I m sure you haven't noticed how high are the snaps in the pocket. Have you?

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20Shrunken%20Lamb/Unknown-7.jpg

HWaltonJonesJr.Phd
11-03-2011, 06:38 PM
Platon I thought you were sure... :poke: I have noticed. It looks about .25 inches down from the top and my Nowak is 1 inch. Strange to have it so high on the pocket... another odd feature for sure.

I am going to keep the jacket anyway. :P


http://i.imgur.com/COnZd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1zsWQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H3SCR.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ITwaw.jpg

PLATON
11-03-2011, 08:01 PM
I prefer the 1 inch of the Nowak,

I am wondering however, is the snap the nipple type or the ring type?

Anyone with HD copy can magnify here to see better?
http://i.imgur.com/1zsWQ.jpg

RCSignals
11-03-2011, 08:47 PM
It was the nipple type on the jacket TN had to duplicate. The jacket in the above photos in this thread, or most of them, are one of the other jackets. Those snaps look to me to be the same nickel "nipple" type. You can sure see the grain of the leather in that one with the idol.

Kt Templar
11-03-2011, 09:31 PM
Remember the pic of Ford and Allen is flopped.

I think it also illustrates how the flap is set higher up above the top of the pocket than we are used to.

They appear to me to be the 'nipple' type snaps. Like the 'Newey's' on the ToD.

neutronbomb
11-03-2011, 11:42 PM
All the pics shown of the film jacket is the main hero. I think I saw one of the Imam jacket with the snap showing. I'll try to find it.

Gunslinger
11-04-2011, 12:04 AM
There's that other thread where we were looking at the flaps, and I recall the shape of the Nowak copy of the Hawaii jacket was dead-on, including the snap placement on the flap (IE the "lumps"). I did a LOT of looking at how they differed between the two jackets. eg:

WoS:
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu163/roninbd/Pocket-Wellofsouls-1.jpg

Idol Grab:
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu163/roninbd/Pocket-Idolgrab-1.jpg

Hawaii:
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu163/roninbd/Pocket-Hawaii-1.jpg

Stock Nowak:
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu163/roninbd/Pocket-000-888-1.jpg

Gunslinger
11-04-2011, 12:09 AM
Having made a bunch of screen grabs in multiple points, I could plot where each part landed, and find at best, an agreed-upon spot, or at worst, an average. Notice how the flap shape and end point on the nowak is dead on, but the lump is too low down. Also, note how far off the green elements are versus the red ones of the Main Hero jacket.

Looking at my Nowak, which was made based on these adjustments...

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu163/roninbd/D700-20101212-144356-1.jpg

...its stud seems slightly closer to the pocket edge, though not as much as the screen Main Hero jacket. So as KT says, it comes down to that distance between pocket and flap, all else being equal.

indydude18
11-04-2011, 04:42 PM
Platon, maybe these help.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k530/indydude18/vlcsnap-2011-11-04-09h24m54s23.png
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k530/indydude18/vlcsnap-2011-11-04-09h24m45s181.png
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k530/indydude18/vlcsnap-2011-11-04-09h24m17s168.png

Now you guys have me stressing about snap placement! "I ought to kill you right now" :D

Kurt, why aren't you working for LucasFilm or something?!

Do I hear illusion anywhere....echo echo echo echo.......

neutronbomb
11-08-2011, 02:31 AM
click and then click again for 100%.
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20The%20Imam%20Jacket%20Pockets/th_hawaiiexit_Rpocket1.jpg (http://s615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20The%20Imam%20Jacket%20Pockets/?action=view&current=hawaiiexit_Rpocket1.jpg)
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/neutronbomb_photos/ROTLA%20-%20The%20Imam%20Jacket%20Pockets/hawaiiexit_Rpocket1.jpg

Tyderium
11-08-2011, 03:59 AM
On a side note, that pic Platon posted is a particularly good one for showing some of the 'pebbled' or 'cellular' texture. You can see it clearly under the snap.

Gunslinger
11-08-2011, 08:33 AM
That last shot of Bryan's sure confirms Tony's measurements on the stud placement, that's for sure. The Nowaks look pretty much dead-on that jacket.

neutronbomb
12-21-2011, 02:16 PM
yeah, it's pretty much one more peg in confirming the different jackets used in the movie and that likely the real jacket Tony got to copy was The Imam Jacket. The jacket identified as The Main Hero Jacket is looking like the snap placement is located higher up on the pocket than The Imam Jacket.

Raskolnikov
12-21-2011, 11:16 PM
I had already noticed the higher snap placement (at least of the main hero jacket) but never gave it much importance. I always thought that was the reason the snap was also placed high on the pocket flaps.
Talking about the hero jacket, I have taken some screen grabs from the 'Making of Raiders', in the Raven Bar scene, where the length of the sleeves looks a little bit shorter than what is commonly thought. In my opinion, at least in those pics, the R jacket has an sportive look that the LC version lacks due to the wider but also longer sleeves. I am too lazy to post them right know but I may do it tomorrow on the main hero jacket thread.
Regards,
Rask

neutronbomb
05-16-2014, 03:25 PM
PLATON! Read your own thread.